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#1 User is offline   geofspa 

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Posted 2007-March-08, 13:51

Scoring: IMP


Bidding so far

- P 3 X
4 4 P ??

What does south call now ? .... I was south :P

This one I will leave open just for comments ... I'll show the full deal later.
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Posted 2007-March-08, 13:58

Given that pard has passed I think slam is not very likely. So I'd also pass. If pard hadn't passed, this would be a little harder a call.
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Posted 2007-March-08, 14:09

If you routinely pass in these situations partner will be very happy with you. If you miss a perfecta slam, oh well. I'd love partner to be able to bid happily with 5 trumps and a nice 7 or 8 points and not fear us bidding again.
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Posted 2007-March-08, 14:11

pass
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Posted 2007-March-08, 14:19

Pass. Partner expects you to have a good hand to double 3D in the direct seat. You have some extras, but not enough to push on.

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Posted 2007-March-08, 14:30

Pass. You dont have that much over a min takeout double.

For each 1 time you bid on and reach a good slam, you will pass your side's last making contract (4) several or more times.
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Posted 2007-March-08, 16:16

Pass. Partner is bidding under pressure.
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Posted 2007-March-08, 16:36

How much more do people need to bid over 4?

I agree with pass on the actual hand, but I think with another black suit king I would bid on.
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Posted 2007-March-08, 16:53

Hi,

you have one Ace above a min X, and you face
a passed partner, in other words even 4H may
go down.

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Marlowe
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Posted 2007-March-08, 17:12

Pass is the percentage call in my opinion. Yes, you may miss the odd slam, but you will go down in 5 or 6 more often. I am not going to hang partner for bidding 4 on

Qx
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Kxx

Now the 5-level could be too high. I agree with Adam that I need to add at least a black suit king in order to move over 4.

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Posted 2007-March-08, 17:59

awm, on Mar 8 2007, 02:36 PM, said:

How much more do people need to bid over 4?

I agree with pass on the actual hand, but I think with another black suit king I would bid on.

I was thinking the same. There is a logical end to giving partner slack for a 4 call, and a triple 4-1 prime 19 warrants another move.
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Posted 2007-March-08, 18:46

Jlall, on Mar 8 2007, 03:09 PM, said:

If you routinely pass in these situations partner will be very happy with you. If you miss a perfecta slam, oh well. I'd love partner to be able to bid happily with 5 trumps and a nice 7 or 8 points and not fear us bidding again.

Exactly right (imho :) )

Also remember that it is almost always wrong to play partner for the perfect hand: partners rarely hold it.

Finally, consider a few minimum hands he might have.. hands on which he would stretch to bid, bearing in mind that he was under pressure and would be expecting you to act cautiously. Are you safe at the 5-level?

If a perfect hand makes 6 AND a bad hand is safe at the 5-level, you can make a try...

See Roland's example of a hand lacking 5-level safety
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Posted 2007-March-08, 19:36

pass. the hand has great controls but is otherwise a bit moth-eaten

4441's usually don't play very well unless you can crossruff stuff. auction doesn't hint at that, so pass.
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Posted 2007-March-10, 13:01

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Bidding :

- p 3d x
4d 4h p P*
p

So A hand that causes concord throughout the bridge world ... well those that have replied.

I too agreed with pass having forced partner to speak I do not want to punish him more.

As it happened the K was lead and partner cruised to 13 tricks. Well done partner.
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Posted 2007-March-10, 15:30

well, waddayaknow..? There was a crossruff after all :)
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