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And your choice is..... The misadventures of Rex and Jay-#5397

Poll: Do you or do you not? (26 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you or do you not?

  1. pass (1 votes [3.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.85%

  2. 4 Hearts (25 votes [96.15%])

    Percentage of vote: 96.15%

  3. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   microcap 

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Posted 2007-March-07, 15:24

A simple one for a change.

You hold:
Scoring: IMP
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Partner opens 1♥ in first hand, RHO passes. You are playing 2♥ as a constructive raise, so taking a dim view of your 4-3-3-3 hand you opt for 1NT. [feel free to comment here as well]

LHO throws in a natural 2♣ bid. Partner jumps to 3♥. Do you go to game, pass, or something else [though I can't think of what it might be.] :)
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Posted 2007-March-07, 15:31

1NT is ok, but being super max. 4H is clear.

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Posted 2007-March-07, 15:42

1NT wouldn't be my call with a king and an ace, but no big deal.

4H is clear now, you have the absolute max for your bid.

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Posted 2007-March-07, 15:54

I agree with 1N.. 4333 hands should be downgraded and that offsets the upgrade for the controls. 4♥ is now clear.
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Posted 2007-March-07, 16:07

umm, I would bid 4H.
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Posted 2007-March-07, 16:17

Unanimous. I would even raise with a heart less and one more diamond. The 3rd trump is a very good card, combined with three controls (great for high level suit contracts).

And who knows, I might even have a ruffing value!

♠ AQxx
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♦ Qx
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Posted 2007-March-07, 19:20

Rex passed and I didn't think it was close either. I am a more intuitive player, and would have bid 4♥ fast enough to fry my mouse. Rex is a pure scientist who has read and absorbed every book ever written on bidding.

This is why we fight all the time! :P :D :D

Over the years, I would say the forum backs Rex about 70% of the time and me 30% of the time, so even when I think he is nuts, I post a hand like this one.

Anyway, Rex said he figured I had 6 losers and he only had 2 cover cards and 4-3-3-3 so he passed. He did say that red he would bid 4♥ for the standard IMP probability reasons.

My hand was:
Scoring: IMP
and 4♥ made easily.

PS : West bailed us out by bidding 4♣ which we doubled and set 3 for a 2 imp pickup! :P
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Posted 2007-March-07, 23:36

I would have raised to 2H with my prime 7 hcp. 1NT is acceptable though. Now I would bid 4H for sure.
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Posted 2007-March-08, 03:26

1NT is clear to me, I don't have extras.

4♥ mainly because of the 4 small clubs.
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Posted 2007-March-08, 07:58

I would have bid 2♥. 4♥ is now obvious. Partner should have very good ♥'s and 2 outside usefull honours, so 4♥ is definitely a worthy try
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Posted 2007-March-08, 08:13

4♥ wtp
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Posted 2007-March-08, 09:43

i didnt think there was a problem either---Rex will have to fend for himself if he chooses to.
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Posted 2007-March-08, 10:09

microcap, on Mar 7 2007, 08:20 PM, said:


My hand was: 
Dealer: South
Vul: None
Scoring: IMP
♠ AQ7
♥ AQJ1097
♦ Q73
♣ 8
 
and 4♥ made easily.






Would anyone have opened this hand 1H and rebid 4H (rather than 3H) over 1NT response? [5 loser hand with self-sufficient suit.]

Eric S.
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Posted 2007-March-08, 13:02

I wouldn't bid 4H with the strong hand. Losercount is for losers.

4H with the 7-count is normal.
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Posted 2007-March-08, 13:09

"Would anyone have opened this hand 1H and rebid 4H (rather than 3H) over 1NT response? [5 loser hand with self-sufficient suit.]"

Everyone's entitles to their own loser count evaluation, but I count 7 possible losers, and 5-6 probable losers. Opposite a random 6 count, 4H is a poor contract.

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Posted 2007-March-08, 14:33

obvious 4♥ bid. all pts are working
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Posted 2007-March-08, 16:05

1NT is ok, too many losers and poor shape. Now I'll bid 4♥. Seems clear cut...
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