[goobers]

4th seat, all red, MPs.

You hold ♠Qxxxx ♥AKQx ♦-- ♣98xx

(1D) - p - (1NT) - x
(2D) - 2S - (3D) - ?

Question 1. Your bid here?

I chose 3S at the table, so now it's this:

(1D) - p - (1NT) - x
(2D) - 2S - (3D) - 3S
(4D) - x - (p) - ?

Question 2. Now what?

Edit: I screwed up the auction a bit. Fixed now.

[pbleighton]

1. 3S is fine, even red, because of the diamond void.

2. Now I pass.

Peter

[Apollo81]

give pard xxxxx xxx xxxx x

I potentially make 4♠

[goobers]

Of course pard's hand is better than that, having made a freebid, but can you be so optimistic as to give him no club wastage?

[bid_em_up]

Question 1: 4♠

Question 2: I should have bid 4♠ the first time. I have a second chance now. 4♠.

[HeartA]

Jlall, on Mar 6 2007, 12:56 PM, said:

You have to bid 4S with this over 2S, the hand is just too good not to.

4S automatically (over 2S, I mean).

[Apollo81]

goobers, on Mar 6 2007, 02:16 PM, said:

Of course pard's hand is better than that, having made a freebid, but can you be so optimistic as to give him no club wastage?

my point is that if you can reasonably put him on a 0-count that has play for game and he should have much better than a 0 count then it seems silly not to bid game

[pclayton]

1. You have to bid 4♠. Its possible you might be off 3 clubs and a trump, but its more likely you aren't, or they lead a diamond and pard takes a quick pitch off those hearts.

2. This sounds like something from an appeal. I'm pulling to 4♠, even if the double took 5 minutes. Some will say, "...bla bla...if you judged your hand worthy of only 3♠, you have to pass....bla bla". I think thats hogwash.

[P_Marlowe]

1) 4S, 3S is just competitive
2) 4S (I am biased, since I would not be in the situation)

With kind regards
Marlowe

[goobers]

Ah okay, thanks everyone. I gave it a long thought at the table, I guess just envisioning nightmare things where we just lose 3 clubs and a trump, but this is too pessimistic.