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#1 User is offline   jjsb 

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Posted 2003-December-23, 00:53

not for me ...

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K53
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RHO open after 2 pass 1H , u're unfavourable , IMP .

with what i have seen in the traveller after the tourney is over i will have a lot of answer telling me "why u ask that too obvious" .

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Posted 2003-December-23, 03:03

Pass - 10
Dbl - 3
1NT - 0

Very poor offensive prospects, but very good defensive values.

On long run pass will surely produce the best (or, better to say: the least worst) results!
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Posted 2003-December-23, 07:58

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AJ104
Q103
K53
KJ8

RHO open after 2 pass 1H , u're unfavourable , IMP .


"why u ask that too obvious?" Lol

Ok, trying to figure out what you did. There seems to be four possible bids: Pass, DBL, 1S, and 1NT

To me, pass seems to stand out at imps, but at matchpoints, double is a clear winner.

At imps, being not vul, double is a very close second choice, so I don't see much harm in pass or double under these conditions. I would not overcall 1NT because I doubt that his hand is worth 14hcp, much less 15. And 1S just seems wrong with support for the other suits.

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Posted 2003-December-23, 09:29

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not for me ...

AJ104
Q103
K53
KJ8

RHO open after 2 pass 1H , u're unfavourable , IMP .

with what i have seen in the traveller after the tourney is over i will have a lot of answer telling me "why u ask that too obvious" .

regards
syl



Playing standard Overcall methods, this is an easy pass. Your shape is abysmal. Doubling with this type of hand completely misrepresents your shape. Partner will never be able to figure out whats going on. If you have a good partner, he will know enough to balance.

With this said and done, I prefer playing overcall style that permit a 1S call with this type of hand. 1S has good lead directing values. Solong as partner understands that I could be overcalling on a balanced hand with a 4 card suit, he won't get too excited.

Please note: If you want to be able to bid in direct seat with this sort of hand, you "only" have a few choices.

(a) You can loosen the definition of a double to include weak balanced hands.
(:) You can loosen the definiton of 1M overcalls.

I strongly prefer option (:o. Then again, I also prefer 4 card major systems. Go figure :-)
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Posted 2003-December-23, 11:58

Hi Syl!
The best bid here is to dbl, if your parther know you have bal or semi bal hand - the way I play it with most of my p. Where did the take out dbl go? I play 1NT as modified Raptor (4M-5m, 4M-441 or 5+M-5+middle unbid suit) and he include take out dbl. There are so many advantages, if you like to know or discuss, welcome :).
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Posted 2003-December-23, 13:57

1S, let partner bid 2S ;D 1 down is a good bridge, 2S they won't Dbl imo...
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Posted 2003-December-23, 19:20

1S or pass, probably 1S
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Posted 2003-December-23, 20:26

i guess after all wasnt that simple eheh ;) . it's a deal played in abalucy tourney , i went to myhands to see a little and it was quiet an astonishment for me to see that 2 out of all table (14 i think ) has decided to pass . I'm one passer of course . i should add that if it was in another tourney in BBO or playing in main room i would double this hand to stay in the field but i thougth in abalucy i would be protected by that field by passing this hand .
anyway now u change position and u got :
Q92
64
AQ1076
954

and the auction goes P P 1H P P
do u balance ?

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Posted 2003-December-23, 21:50

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not for me ...

AJ104
Q103
K53
KJ8

RHO open after 2 pass 1H , u're unfavourable , IMP .

with what i have seen in the traveller after the tourney is over i will have a lot of answer telling me "why u ask that too obvious" .

regards
syl


I pass, my pd is still my pd and he/ she is listening to the auction as well as I do. We possible have the mastersuit, and y don't have to win the game in 1 hand we r going to have many more chances. Defense is very important, and this hand mite take a few tricks in defense, +100 or +110, I'll take it 8)

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Posted 2003-December-26, 06:28

Re - Part 2:
PASS - Partner hasn't a reasonable S suit, probarbly 5(4) H. But is Pd's side suit D or C? Opps. may have an escape in D - or even S! :D
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Posted 2003-December-26, 06:44

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i guess after all wasnt that simple eheh :) . it's a deal played in abalucy tourney , i went to myhands to see a little and it was quiet an astonishment for me to see that 2 out of all table (14 i think ) has decided to pass . I'm one passer of course . i should add that if it was in another tourney in BBO or playing in main room i would double this hand to stay in the field but i thougth in abalucy i would be protected by that field by passing this hand .
anyway now u change position and u got :
Q92
64
AQ1076
954

and the auction goes P P 1H P P
do u balance ?

regards
syl



Yes, I thin you shld balance with this hand at MP, but pass is ok at IMPs.
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Posted 2003-December-26, 06:51

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not for me ...

AJ104
Q103
K53
KJ8

RHO open after 2 pass 1H , u're unfavourable , IMP .

with what i have seen in the traveller after the tourney is over i will have a lot of answer telling me "why u ask that too obvious" .

regards
syl



To me this is an automatic double at any form of scoring.
Specially when pd is a passed hand you are just letting him know that you have values and 3+ cards in the remaining suits so he can fight for the partscore to the proper level if he has a suit.
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Posted 2003-December-26, 16:22

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i guess after all wasnt that simple eheh :) . it's a deal played in abalucy tourney , i went to myhands to see a little and it was quiet an astonishment for me to see that 2 out of all table (14 i think ) has decided to pass . I'm one passer of course . i should add that if it was in another tourney in BBO or playing in main room i would double this hand to stay in the field but i thougth in abalucy i would be protected by that field by passing this hand .
anyway now u change position and u got :
Q92
64
AQ1076
954

and the auction goes P P 1H P P
do u balance ?

regards
syl



Yes, I thin you shld balance with this hand at MP, but pass is ok at IMPs.

Of course I balance, but why bid in direct seat. Must not trust pd I guess. People always think if they have anything that looks like an opening hand, they have to bid. They must be very very afraid their pd is not listening and that they can't defend, otherwise I see no reason whatsoever to bid, at least in direct seat. Bidding on a flat 4-3-3-3 8 loser hand is just asking for trouble. Maybe even Triple Trouble ;D

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Posted 2004-January-05, 22:43

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anyway now u change position and u got :
Q92
64
AQ1076
954

and the auction goes P P 1H P P
do u balance ?


Yes, on the given auction, I would balance with this hand. S

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Posted 2004-January-06, 06:23

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anyway now u change position and u got :
Q92
64
AQ1076
954

and the auction goes P P 1H P P
do u balance ?


Yes, on the given auction, I would balance with this hand. S

Ben

Absolutly, no doubt about it.

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