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Posted 2007-February-11, 06:09

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Posted 2007-February-11, 09:32

When the stated goals defy logic, you start to believe the stated goals are a smokescreen to hide a different agenda - it wouldn't take much of a push to set the entire region aflame, and plans are being made for airstrikes against Iran even as Gates and Bush deny a plan for war. http://www.guardian....usrc=rss&feed=1


Madam Speaker, perhaps it is time to place impeachment back on the table.
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Posted 2007-February-11, 14:17

"When the stated goals defy logic, you start to believe the stated goals are a smokescreen to hide a different agenda - it wouldn't take much of a push to set the entire region aflame, and plans are being made for airstrikes against Iran even as Gates and Bush deny a plan for war."

Perhaps, but I prefer a simpler explanation - stubbornness and stupidity.

These guys are really clueless.

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Posted 2007-February-11, 16:15

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Perhaps, but I prefer a simpler explanation - stubbornness and stupidity.

These guys are really clueless.

Peter


I wish it were that simple, but Wolfowitz, Kristol, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush and the others are extremely bright - arrogantly so - it is the arrogance that is the problem. They are also followers of the teachings of Strauss, which of itself makes it dangerous to place them in positions of power.
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Posted 2007-February-11, 16:19

Did you just say Bush was extremely bright?

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Posted 2007-February-11, 16:49

" wish it were that simple, but Wolfowitz, Kristol, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush and the others are extremely bright - arrogantly so - it is the arrogance that is the problem."

You can have a high IQ and still be stupid.

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Posted 2007-February-11, 17:12

pbleighton, on Feb 11 2007, 05:49 PM, said:

You can have a high IQ and still be stupid.

Peter

I actually agree with you on that statement, Peter.


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Posted 2007-February-11, 18:54

I don't think that is exactly right - you can have a high IQ and still do dumb things is more apt. You can be smart and foolish. But I think being smart and being stupid are mutually exclusive.

And it takes someone extremely bright to pretend to be stupid and pull it off believably.
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Posted 2007-February-11, 19:05

"But I think being smart and being stupid are mutually exclusive."

Well, I guess it depends on your definition, but you can be very bright and be so either lacking in common sense (which may be a result of an unfortunate belief system) that you are effectively stupid.

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