Partner opens 1H, LHO overcalls 2D and your 4S ends the auction.
West leads a diamond spot that suggests he holds at most 2 cards in that suit.
How do you play?
Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com
Posted 2007-January-20, 19:22
Posted 2007-January-20, 22:55
Posted 2007-January-21, 00:58
fred, on Jan 20 2007, 08:22 PM, said:
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Posted 2007-January-21, 01:25
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Posted 2007-January-21, 02:12
Posted 2007-January-21, 12:22
The problem is that the 10 of Club is still not useful in this line!
And the contract is always down on a trump lead.. [/quote]
How did you get the [he] guard exclusively in East? You don't have the entries to the board to ruff 2 hearts to isolate the [he] menace. As long as West can guard hearts, this squeeze position becomes isometric with the club shift.
After I posted this last night, a thought at 2AM came to me. The loser-on-loser also works in this layout:
When you play the A[cl], East can't afford an unblock of the King, since you now make a club trick by force. But also note that if East has Qx, West can't afford to overtake to play a trump for the same reason.
The rabbit hole seems to go pretty deep here, but somehow I don't think we've hit bottom.
#9
Patapon
Posted 2007-January-21, 14:36
RHO played a small heart to LHO so that he plays Spade.
When I take the Ace of Spade, I ruff a Heart again, and when he plays Club, I ruff the second Heart.Three rounds of heart have been played now and the menace is isolated...
#10
Halo
Posted 2007-January-21, 14:56
#11
Patapon
Posted 2007-January-21, 14:57
The loser on loser works also with KQx in Club with RHO actually...
I think we are not that far to hit the bottom!
Not so many ways to win this contract.
-Playing for trumps 4-0 and play the Ace of Diamond at trick one,then Ace of Club and Jack of Club discarding the Heart..
- This works also with K or Q stiff in Club( or KQ) if he helds the Kx in Spade..
This is the best line I think
#12
pclayton
Posted 2007-January-21, 18:37
Patapon, on Jan 21 2007, 12:36 PM, said:
RHO played a small heart to LHO so that he plays Spade.
When I take the Ace of Spade, I ruff a Heart again, and when he plays Club, I ruff the second Heart.Three rounds of heart have been played now and the menace is isolated...
Yep, I agree. 1. Duck ♦, 2. ♥ to West (1x), 3. ♠ return, 4. ♥ ruffed (2x), 5. Give up to ♠K, 6. ♣ returned, 7. heart ruffed (3x), 8-9-10. draw trump and squeezing East as described.
Note that East needs to hold 4♥ in this case, but very possible with the (presumed) void spade.
#13
Patapon
Posted 2007-January-21, 20:28
But in this case the only way to make is to play low Diamond at trick one otherwise you are down as you couldn't establish the Clubs( as he holds KQxx)..
Notice that the Jack of Heart is important here for the first time
The Jack of Heart and the 10 of Club are two confusing cards here..
#14
fred
Posted 2007-January-22, 13:20
When given this problem a surprising number of experts try to do something complicated that cannot possible gain against good defense. Some of these "solutions" will lead to defeat when the King of spades is singleton. For example, ducking the first trick never gains but it loses if the King of spades is singleton and the diamonds are 7-1.
When I was given this problem the South hand lacked the 9 of spades (which makes for a better problem as there are now more ways to go down when the hand is cold). Sorry for not realizing that my attempt to improve the problem actually made it worse.
Well done by the people who responded for (mostly) not falling into any traps and for identifying some small extra chances beyond the main chance of a singleton King of trump.
Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com
#15
pclayton
Posted 2007-January-22, 14:11
fred, on Jan 22 2007, 11:20 AM, said:
When given this problem a surprising number of experts try to do something complicated that cannot possible gain against good defense. Some of these "solutions" will lead to defeat when the King of spades is singleton. For example, ducking the first trick never gains but it loses if the King of spades is singleton and the diamonds are 7-1.
When I was given this problem the South hand lacked the 9 of spades (which makes for a better problem as there are now more ways to go down when the hand is cold). Sorry for not realizing that my attempt to improve the problem actually made it worse.
Well done by the people who responded for (mostly) not falling into any traps and for identifying some small extra chances beyond the main chance of a singleton King of trump.
Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com
To think I was looking for an analysis similar to the old Deal of the Weeks.
Anyway, I had fun with the hand, and I think Bene did too.
#16
Patapon
Posted 2007-January-22, 17:42
pclayton, on Jan 22 2007, 08:11 PM, said:
fred, on Jan 22 2007, 11:20 AM, said:
When given this problem a surprising number of experts try to do something complicated that cannot possible gain against good defense. Some of these "solutions" will lead to defeat when the King of spades is singleton. For example, ducking the first trick never gains but it loses if the King of spades is singleton and the diamonds are 7-1.
When I was given this problem the South hand lacked the 9 of spades (which makes for a better problem as there are now more ways to go down when the hand is cold). Sorry for not realizing that my attempt to improve the problem actually made it worse.
Well done by the people who responded for (mostly) not falling into any traps and for identifying some small extra chances beyond the main chance of a singleton King of trump.
Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com
To think I was looking for an analysis similar to the old Deal of the Weeks.
Anyway, I had fun with the hand, and I think Bene did too.
Yes I did have fun too
And yes it was a tricky problem!
But I think I know now the best line:
I play the Ace of Diamond at trick one.
I play the Ace of Club at trick two.
- If an Honnor appears, I continue with the Jack of Club, discarding a heart, playing RHO for the King of Spade second( and works also with the stiff ♠King).
-If nothing appears:
I play the Ace of Spade-I won't be down with the stiff King -
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