[FrancesHinden]

Scoring: IMP

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RHO deals, 32-board KO imps match
Auction 1:
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P P 1H x
P ? 3H 3NT
P ?

what do you call on the first and second rounds ("call" of course includes passing...)

Auction 2
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(forget what you might infer about partner's hand from auction 1)

P P 4H x
P ? x xx
5H ?

If your first ? is a pass, that ends the auction (funnily enough).
If you bid one of your suits, LHO doubles "action" showing a hand that wants to bid 5H but is doubling in case partner wants to defend, usually singleton or void spade.

Partner's redouble sets up a forcing pass position.
What do you do over 5H?
(be honest if you would have defended 4Hx)

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

1) 1S and over 3NT from partner I pass
2) 4S and over 5H I pass

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Halo]

Exactly the same as P Marlowe.

[Free]

1. 2♦ followed by pass
2. 4♠ followed by pass

[whereagles]

As Marlowe. Why is this a problem?

[FrancesHinden]

whereagles, on Jan 16 2007, 11:50 AM, said:

As Marlowe. Why is this a problem?

Because those actions will get you a result way below par on the board?

[whereagles]

FrancesHinden, on Jan 16 2007, 12:11 PM, said:

whereagles, on Jan 16 2007, 11:50 AM, said:

As Marlowe. Why is this a problem?

Because those actions will get you a result way below par on the board?

And why should I know that before hand?

Wait, I know: because this is a problem

[pclayton]

1. 1♠. Over 3N I try 4♥. Since pard didn't whip 3♥ I expect a source of tricks and my stiff heart is a nice card.

2. 4♠. I really don't know what to do over 5♥. I don't know what pard's doing here, but since we are in a FP, I'll blame transfer this.

[mikeh]

Jlall, on Jan 16 2007, 10:03 AM, said:

1) 1S then pass seems pretty clear.

2) 4S first, I guess I would pass over 5H.

agree

[FrancesHinden]

I thought this was a very tough hand.

Scoring: IMP

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Table 1 (I was South of course, you can tell from the hand)
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P  P  4♥  x
P  4♠  x  P
5♥  P  P  x
All pass

NS -300 (they didn't get the club ruff, which is very tough to find)
They didn't think of the redouble, but it looks obvious to me unless you are gambling on a misunderstanding and +690 or so.


Table 2 (Good guys EW)
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P  P  1♥  x
P  2♦  3♥  3NT
P  4♠ All Pass

I was a little surprised that East didn't move over 4♠, but West is known to be a rampant bidder (if you bid 1S in the auction above, pretend the doubler was 3352 and you've missed 7D instead of 7S).

5 imps to the good guys.

I could have presented the hands and asked for a good auction, but I don't like "construct the auction" threads. You can all just think rude things about East's actions at both tables intead if you like!

[FrancesHinden]

Jlall, on Jan 16 2007, 05:04 PM, said:

I think the 3N bid is horrible if partner has bid 1S over the double.

"(if you bid 1S in the auction above, pretend the doubler was 3352 and you've missed 7D instead of 7S)."

[mr1303]

Why is the North hand doubling 4S?

[FrancesHinden]

I'd have liked to have the HA (or the CA) to double 4S, but it led us to -300 so I'm not complaining.

[jvage]

mr1303, on Jan 16 2007, 01:01 PM, said:

Why is the North hand doubling 4S? 

As Frances said in her original post, Double shows that North wanted to bid again (5♥). He shows this by doubling instead of taking a solo action, allowing partner to pass with very good defense.

This is a common but not universal treatment (something to discuss with your regular partner?). After game-level preempts the preemptor often got something to spare. Instead of being forced to pass, opening 5♥ or masterminding by bidding twice on his own, this is a good way to involve partner.

John

[mr1303]

I understand the basic premise about a double suggesting something extra for the 4H bid, I just don't feel that the North hand is worth it.

He's bid his hand when bid 4H, and forced the opponents to guess what to do at the 4 level. They may have guessed wrong by bidding 4 spades, and East may make a slam try that would fail.

OK, it got a good result here, but I think this is the ends-justifying-the-means scenario