[cherdano]

Scoring: IMP

(1♠)-P-(P)-X
(2♥)-4♦-(4♥)-?

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LHO's opening got passed to you, you doubled, and the auction quickly gained speed.

So now you have the choice between the obvious raise with 5-card support, or the obvious double with 4 trumps.

[ohioply]

5♦

[pclayton]

Wow is right!

4♠ for me. Lets see if we can coax a 5♣ call out of CHO.

I have a feeling pard has something like ?xxxx, void, Kxxxx, Axx. This hand will take a LOT of tricks in ♦'s.

Double is totally wrong. We can't have an effective tap, since dummy's (presumed) 4 trump will control.

[pbleighton]

5D. If opps bid 5H I double.

Peter

[mikeh]

I'm not doubling. I doubt that they are making, altho stranger things have happened, but I also very much doubt they are going for 500 and I think we rate to take 11 tricks.

Can we take 12? And if so, can we get there?

Opposite Jxxxx void KJxxxx Kx, we're favourite to do so even on a trump lead: we play a ♣ to the K early and LHO cannot have a second trump to lead, and we then have a high crossruff. But Jxxxx void KJxxx Kxx is more problematic: not only may they be able to lead 2 rounds of trump (unlikely) but even one round is enough to compress our trick taking potential unless we are lucky in ♣s.

I can't tell, and when I can't tell, I try to enlist partner's cooperation. So I bid 4♠.

I am going to take 5♣ as a cue, not a suit, and will bid slam over that.

[keylime]

I misclicked my vote on hearts so totally disregard. Never in million years do I double this. It's got train wreck wrote all over it.

This hand has a similar strain to it as the 6-4 hand on the BPO, but this time I table 4NT, a good playing hand in diamonds-clubs (good/bad). I can't bid 5C for obvious reasons; this is the only tool I have to show diamond support with side suit in clubs. Let's hope that 4NT isn't keycard for diamonds! <which would really make no sense to me in this auction>.

If I bid 4S, which is my 2nd choice of bid, the problem I have is what does 4NT from pard mean? Spade control opposite a void? How do I refocus in clubs after this point? Last train it at the five level, eek? Yeah we got trump fit but...

Pard's gotta be on some values over there and if he's got let's say KQ of clubs or A of clubs and such, heck, slam might be in picture.

[mikeh]

removed: silly post, didn't read all of dwayne's post so was responding to something he didn't say...my apologies

[pclayton]

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If I bid 4S, which is my 2nd choice of bid, the problem I have is what does 4NT from pard mean? Spade control opposite a void? How do I refocus in clubs after this point? Last train it at the five level, eek? Yeah we got trump fit but...

4N over 4♠ is truly a bid of torture. Its inconceivable pard is key carding, since we just have too many 1st round controls, and the fact pard didn't cue at the last round.

If I'm playing with Chthonic, I would take 4N as a type of last train, but denying a club control. Something like: AQxxx, void, Kxxxxx, xx I guess.

With anyone else I don't know wth it means.

[Halo]

5D

Such simple conversations after the hand.

[pbleighton]

"5D

Such simple conversations after the hand. "

LOL.

Peter

[whereagles]

4♦ was probably more based on length than hcp (pard didn't cue). I'm sticking to 5♦ only.

[mike777]

5D

Once again giving up on slam after the opp have opened at the one level.
Of course the bidding may not be over, who knows