[Mr. Dodgy]

Scoring: IMP

1♥-?

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I called 3♣, but in hindsight was reminded of the 'Swans' discussions here lately and thought 5♣ would have been better. How high are you prepared to go here, and how fast?

[Walddk]

5♣ non vul against vul.

Roland

[whereagles]

Yeah, 5♣ seems fair.

If pard were a passed hand, 6♣ comes to mind. Or even some psych.

[csdenmark]

Mr. Dodgy, on Jan 9 2007, 03:03 PM, said:

Dealer: East Vul: E/W Scoring: IMP

♠ Q875 ♥ 4 ♦   ♣ QJT98532

1♥-?

I called 3♣, but in hindsight was reminded of the 'Swans' discussions here lately and thought 5♣ would have been better. How high are you prepared to go here, and how fast?

Pity my option is not there. I would like to explore our options for ♠ and I assume my bid will be 2♥ for Michael. Over 3♥ from opening side I jump to 5♣ if partner is silent and raise 3♠ but pass 4♠ from partner.

On a sunny day I think I will be ready for a GF double-cue instead(3♥).

[pclayton]

5♣ is fine, and I wouldn't mind even 6♣. Anything less doesn't do any justice to an 8-4 with zero defense.

Claus, the only pity is that you are even considering spades as a strain on this hand.

[csdenmark]

pclayton, on Jan 9 2007, 05:01 PM, said:

5♣ is fine, and I wouldn't mind even 6♣. Anything less doesn't do any justice to an 8-4 with zero defense.

Claus, the only pity is that you are even considering spades and a strain on this hand.

Maybe so - but I am convinced that 6♣ will be down. I dont trust 5♣ either and the reason for no immediate double cue is I will be interested in good response from partner - else I will be ready for the club sacrifice.

I will not panic just because opps. has come up with an opening hand.

[keylime]

5C. Who cares about the spade suit when I got a straight flush in clubs?

[Halo]

5C

I feel these days that you can't stop the opponent making one bid, so I'll let them make it below slam.

[mikeh]

5♣

For those who contemplate 6♣, consider that it has more, and more common, ways to lose (compared to 5♣) than it has to win.

[the hog]

5C for me.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

4C, you can sell me 5C, but I think 4C
is enough.

3C is just pointless.

The main problem with 5C is, that most of the
time, they dont have a hard choice to make,
they will double, and that's it.

They will take -3 or -4, and they will be ok, against
a making game.
If partner holds one top honor in clubs, he will raise
anyway.

Holding the 4 card spade suit may make it harder
for them to find a neg. X.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[bearmum]

5♣ WTP?

[Mr. Dodgy]

Thanks for the responses.

I agree 3♣ isn't great...

This was a MBC hand and 5 out of 12 times when the hand was opened 1♥, 3♣ was the bid. 5♣ was bid 3 times, 2 times 4♣, once 2♣ and once Double.

At my table, the auction proceeded thus:
1♥-3♣-4♥-Pass;
4NT-Pass-5♦-Pass;
6♥-?

Now what?

[Codo]

Now I would double 70 % chance that pd finds the right lead. If I pass, his chance is about zero %.
The second trick is the missing key card, after all they did not look for the Grand.

[Walddk]

Double. Hopefully partner has a stack of diamonds and will know to lead one rather than a spade. His choice of diamond will also tell me what to return, although I don't think it matters.

Either he has a trick or he hasn't. I have seen my opponents score 1660 before.

Roland

[Mr. Dodgy]

csdenmark, on Jan 9 2007, 08:41 AM, said:

Pity my option is not there.

I almost always include 'Other' in my polls.

[pclayton]

Walddk, on Jan 10 2007, 03:37 AM, said:

Double. Hopefully partner has a stack of diamonds and will know to lead one rather than a spade. His choice of diamond will also tell me what to return, although I don't think it matters.

Either he has a trick or he hasn't. I have seen my opponents score 1660 before.

Roland

Uh; the diamond lead probably won't be accepted since this hand is on lead.