Raise or pass?
#1 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2006-December-31, 13:03
Partner opens 6H. Do you raise or pass?
#3
Posted 2006-December-31, 13:13
The only valid reason to bid 6 at once is to keep opps silent. So this is a sacrifice.
#4
Posted 2006-December-31, 13:22
If I'm playing a system with 2♣ or 2♦ as ace-asking, then 6♥ is pree, so pass.
If neither of the above... I'd just pass 'cos people usually go berserk on good hands
#5
Posted 2006-December-31, 13:37
#6
Posted 2006-December-31, 13:44
If all my partner wanted was the HA, he would have opened 4NT (specific ace ask). If we play that, I pass.
#7
Posted 2006-December-31, 13:54
The most common treatment of a 6M opening is that it asks you to bid 7 with the Ace or the King of trump (just what Mike notes). In practice, this bid NEVER comes up.
I'm passing and hoping that partner doesn't go down too many
#8
Posted 2006-December-31, 14:43
hrothgar, on Dec 31 2006, 07:54 PM, said:
I've seen in happening once in a club game. Or rather, opener had a solid suit and was missing a SIDE king... lol.
As for preemptive 6 bids, I've seen 2 already. So that's 2-to-1 on preemptive 6x
#10 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2006-December-31, 16:04
Hence this post... I don't really know, but I do know I'd like to be able to open 6H on some hands that don't want a raise to 7 with the ace.
#11
Posted 2006-December-31, 16:33
Jlall, on Dec 31 2006, 02:04 PM, said:
Hence this post... I don't really know, but I do know I'd like to be able to open 6H on some hands that don't want a raise to 7 with the ace.
When I was 20 I wasn't dreaming about bridge hands. Well maybe I did.
I pass 6♥ and discuss what a 6♥ bid means afterward.
#12
Posted 2006-December-31, 17:03
Jlall, on Dec 31 2006, 04:04 PM, said:
Hence this post... I don't really know, but I do know I'd like to be able to open 6H on some hands that don't want a raise to 7 with the ace.
I prefer the more modern method where 6♥ is opened slightly preemptively but with some expectations not to get killed if doubled. Therefore opener is not interested in a raise to 7 with just an ace of trumps.
Can't opener start with 2♣ and then jump to 6♥ or use some kind of exclusion (likely has a void) if needing just the ace for his grand ?
.. neilkaz ..
#13
Posted 2007-January-01, 02:47
Jlall, on Dec 31 2006, 10:04 PM, said:
If you can afford a misunderstanding, you could try that opener. However, against very strong opps, it's probably better to be cookie-cutter and open 2♣.
#14
Posted 2007-January-01, 04:01
Jlall, on Jan 1 2007, 12:04 AM, said:
You can tell this here, but don't tell any of your friends who don't play bridge. This will be bad for your reputation!
#15
Posted 2007-January-01, 04:20
whereagles, on Jan 1 2007, 09:47 AM, said:
Jlall, on Dec 31 2006, 10:04 PM, said:
If you can afford a misunderstanding, you could try that opener. However, against very strong opps, it's probably better to be cookie-cutter and open 2♣.
Don't think that I agree with this.
The less information that is available to a player, the greater is the lottery element of decisions taken on the basis of the available information. That is an absolute truth regardless of the quality of the player taking the decision. The better the quality of the opposition the greater is the incentive to increase the element of luck involved in his decision in proportion to skill. The slow route would appear to be to the advantage of the better defender. World class opponents are not immune to error when they have to make a decision at the 6 level on the first round of bidding.
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#16
Posted 2007-January-01, 04:40
Pass.
A trick question.
First you need to answer, how trust worthy
is your partner.
According to Simon, you should raise, but
he said also he would not do it, since you
need complete faith in your partner, which
is very rare.
With kind regards
Marlowe
PS: If 7H is on, I would expect to bid partner
slower, he always can ask for the Ace of trump
using an old abused convention.
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#17
Posted 2007-January-01, 04:43
Jlall, on Dec 31 2006, 05:04 PM, said:
Hence this post... I don't really know, but I do know I'd like to be able to open 6H on some hands that don't want a raise to 7 with the ace.
Assuming it happens in real life, I seldom
dream, ... and never about bridge, 7H is ok,
since 6S may make, one option:
You make only the Ace of clubs.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#18
Posted 2007-January-01, 08:32
#19
Posted 2007-January-01, 09:55
dake50, on Jan 1 2007, 09:32 AM, said:
Such a hand does not exist, ... unless
I have a special agreement.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#20
Posted 2007-January-01, 12:16
1eyedjack, on Jan 1 2007, 10:20 AM, said:
whereagles, on Jan 1 2007, 09:47 AM, said:
Jlall, on Dec 31 2006, 10:04 PM, said:
If you can afford a misunderstanding, you could try that opener. However, against very strong opps, it's probably better to be cookie-cutter and open 2♣.
Don't think that I agree with this.
The less information that is available to a player, the greater is the lottery element of decisions taken on the basis of the available information. That is an absolute truth regardless of the quality of the player taking the decision. The better the quality of the opposition the greater is the incentive to increase the element of luck involved in his decision in proportion to skill. The slow route would appear to be to the advantage of the better defender. World class opponents are not immune to error when they have to make a decision at the 6 level on the first round of bidding.
Ahem... You misunderstood me. That wasn't what I was thinking about. Let me know if you want clarifications.

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