Bergen or Mini Splinters
#1
Posted 2003-December-19, 15:36
Mike ;D
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
#2
Posted 2003-December-19, 15:54
You get the mini-splinter, the G/F trump raise, the limit raise with and without shortness, and your pick-a-game. So much better than Bergen, which with discussion is easily defensed.
#3
Posted 2003-December-19, 16:11
I think I played them when I was about 15 years old but that was 20 years ago hehe, my memory not so good
Thx Mike ;D
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
#4
Posted 2003-December-19, 16:41
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You get the mini-splinter, the G/F trump raise, the limit raise with and without shortness, and your pick-a-game. So much better than Bergen, which with discussion is easily defensed.
Can you explain please? Or give a link?
TIA
Wayne
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
#5
Posted 2003-December-19, 16:50
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Mike ;D
I use mini-splinters and a wide-range 'balanced' raise.
1H 2S and 1S 2NT show the 'balanced' raise.
1H 2NT and all jumps in a suit are mini-splinters.
Over the balanced raises we show singletons or ask for range and controls.
Over the splinters we show range and controls - we discount the king of the short suit.
Wayne
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
#6
Posted 2003-December-20, 00:20
1M opening:
one step above 2M (1H-2S and 1H-3C) = mini-splinter, single raise, 4 trumps
two steps above 2M (1H-2NT and 1S-3C) = G/F raise, 4 trumps, mild slam interest (for the record, KLP's structure is an adaptation of Martel-Stansby's 2NT raise)
three steps above 2M (1H-3C and 1S-3D) = single raise, four trumps, but NO shortage
four steps above 2M, one step below 3M (1H-3D and 1S-3H) = limit raise, four trumps, NO shortage
3M directly = preemptive
1M-3NT = 3 trumps, pick a game
1H-3S and 4C/D with 1S-4C/D/H = splinters, game going only
4M directly = preemptive (can be flat hand with game only, depends on partnership)
#7
Posted 2003-December-20, 01:46
1 Sp-3Cl-3D ( relay)-3H= singl H
3Sp= Singl D
4Cl= singl Cl
Unless I am missing something, I have to go digging in my Garazzo notes.
Thx Mike ;D
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
#8
Posted 2003-December-20, 15:44
I used to play ROMEX several years (but 15 years ago). ROMEX raises worked well. BUT! New bidding theory used by top "scientist" pairs in the world is now days different. Primary goal is to not give additional info to opponents if no need. Like in new polish standard WJ2000 only 1 raise 2NT limit or better. Rumen-Kalin pair go further and play 2NT as ONLY limit raise, while other hands pass trought relay or splinter.
Misho
#9
Posted 2003-December-20, 18:04
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1 Sp-3Cl-3D ( relay)-3H= singl H
3Sp= Singl D
4Cl= singl Cl
Unless I am missing something, I have to go digging in my Garazzo notes.
Thx Mike ;D
1S 3C
1S 3D
1S 3H are all splinters
as are
1H 2NT short spades
1H 3C
1H 3D
Wayne
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
#10
Posted 2003-December-20, 19:37
Thx Mike ;D
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
#11
Posted 2003-December-21, 09:11
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Mike ;D
Neither. I use the simple jumpshifts as "fit jumps" and are not game forcing (with one of these suits and game force, I just bid 2/1 or 1S over 1H). Double jumpshifts are splinters of course instead of game-forcing fit jumps.
#12
Posted 2003-December-21, 12:01
Thx Mike ;D
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
#13
Posted 2003-December-21, 12:21
Thx Mike ;D
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
#14
Posted 2003-December-21, 12:47
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Thx Mike ;D
We play double jumps as (most often) weak 5/5 hands with 5-card support this allows partner to compete sensibly if the opponents bid their game.
We also allow very strong 5/5 hands after which we use 6-Ace Blackwood.
Our triple jumps are also exclusion rkc - an excellent convention.
Mini-splinters are contiguous range 8+.
Our structure is:
1S 3C
3D = relay for range and discounted controls
3H = stiff (hands with both players having a singleton are very powerful)
3S = crap attempted sign-off
3NT = stiff diamond
...
4S = accepting the game try minimum and 0-3 controls
Over interference we continue the relays PODI style below 3 Maj.
That is Pass is the relay and Double shows a singleton in the bid suit etc
At or above 3 Maj we us double to show extras.
Wayne
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
#15
Posted 2003-December-21, 12:53
Thx Mike ;D
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
#16
Posted 2003-December-21, 20:08
Thx Mike ;D
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”

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