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#1 User is offline   jocdelevat 

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Posted 2006-December-21, 19:32

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West North East South

 2♠    Pass  4♠    your bid
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Posted 2006-December-21, 20:03

There are two choices, 4NT or double. I prefer 4NT over X.
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Posted 2006-December-21, 20:25

Double. If partner leaves it in, fine. I like to reserve 4N here for undisclosed 2-suiters
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Posted 2006-December-21, 20:46

double. If we have a slam this may work poorly, otherwise I will expect to beat them more than our game. I'm not hopeful about partner pulling when I have this hand, but if he were to pull I would raise him to 7.
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Posted 2006-December-21, 20:48

At equal vulnerability, I will keep 4♠X in the picture. If partner passes the X, I think we have a good chance of scoring 500.
If we were red vs green, I would force our side to the 5 level.
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Posted 2006-December-21, 20:59

x no problems yet
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Posted 2006-December-21, 22:47

X. From where do these hands come and why do I never hold them when playing for the coin of the realm?
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Posted 2006-December-22, 00:34

Dbl. 4N is two places to play - I have 3.
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Posted 2006-December-22, 04:52

pclayton, on Dec 22 2006, 06:34 AM, said:

4N is two places to play - I have 3.

Even better! :P
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Posted 2006-December-22, 08:25

whereagles, on Dec 22 2006, 05:52 AM, said:

pclayton, on Dec 22 2006, 06:34 AM, said:

4N is two places to play - I have 3.

Even better! :rolleyes:

Double... three places to play is NOT better than two.. If parnter held three clubs and five in a red suit, short in other red, he will bid 5♣ opposite 4NT but his five card suit opposite a double.
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Posted 2006-December-22, 09:29

This looks like a double to me.

4NT would be two places to play, but what are 5♠ and 5NT?
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Posted 2006-December-22, 09:39

pclayton, on Dec 22 2006, 12:34 AM, said:

Dbl. 4N is two places to play - I have 3.

If 4♠ was opened, do you play that dble is very penalty oriented and 4NT is take out ? That is what I've always played, but I see the expert trend shifting towards doubling with hands like this and using 4NT when you have 2 places to play or simply cannot stand the double to be passed.

This is a tough hand, but if the double is passed, we can hope we have plenty of defensive tricks.
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Posted 2006-December-22, 10:00


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West North East South

 -     2♠    Pass  4♠
 4NT   Pass  5♦    Pass
 Pass  Pass  

I bid 4nt however I was chicken to bid 6d because I thought my partner is broke.
Anyhow I should have thought about game vs penalty however is not for the first time when I mess up a strong hand. The beginner luck doesn't help a BIL player.
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Posted 2006-December-22, 13:12

when I saw the hand, before seeing the actual layout, it seemed to me that the only two choices that made sense were double and 5♠.



It is not clear to me what partner would/should do over double, especially since partner will not think my shape is this extreme.

If partner were to pull to 5♦, now I have an easy 5♠ as a grand slam try... and over 6♣ by partner......? I think I'm in trouble now.... since I doubt that I could stop.

If I got it off my chest via 5♠, would/should partner bid grand? I don't think so, but I wish I didn't know the layout.
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