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The_Hog, on Dec 20 2006, 04:28 AM, said:

kgr, on Dec 19 2006, 10:41 AM, said:

I was South here.
I didn't bid 4D or 3H first because I wan't sure that It would be interpreted as texas or slamish with heart.
So I started with transfer after which I could only bid 3C,at least my partner can expect a club control now.
After the DBL of 3C and no support from partner I was not enthousiastic anymore to go to 6H.
To most disappointing was not that we missed 6H here, but that partner left because of this.

After which I could only bid 3C???? Really?? What about a quantitative NT bid rather than a non existent suit? I am not surprised your partner left.

First, leaving the table like this is rude and there are no excuses for it...

Second, I consider 3♣ the worst bid in the sequence. It shows a club suit which you do not have. Bid 4♣ instead. This can't be mistaken for a natural bid since you didn't bid 3♣. If partner cooperates in the cue bidding, you won't have a problem in reaching 6♥.

(Note: in Europe it's common to cue second round controls)

Steven

[neilkaz]

Perhaps PD was thinking along these lines...

"With that monster hand even the cat sitting next to my keyboard would have made a more serious slam try"..."of course I know that a direct jump to 3♥ is slamish with 6+ ♥" ... "I bid 3NT after the double of your 2 card suit (like most, I play that 3♣ shows a 2nd suit) since I wasn't concerned about being set by a ♣ lead, so you should have realized ♣ was not a problem and gone for slam".
... "this is our 3rd missunderstanding, so I think I'll go find someone else to play with for the next few hands"

Excuse my sarcasm, but don't be offended when PD leaves.

Anyhow, this doesn't excuse PD's 3NT bid with his really good hand for slam after hearing your 3♣ bid.

.. neilkaz ..

[sdoty]

I place the blame on both sides, but the bid I hate the most is 3NT.

I have some sympathy for starting with a basic transfer and then faking a 3C bid. I think it's obviously bad, but I've been in positions where I seriously doubted that partner would correctly interpret the bid I -wanted- to make... even if it was a 'straightforward' one. At least you can feel confident that 3C is forcing.

4H seems too conservative, but if you didn't trust partner to handle any of the other possible bids over 2H correctly, I can see how after 3NT it would feel like a "4H or 6H?" shot in the dark.

I can't, however, muster any sympathy for the 3NT bid. How could 3H over 3C possibly be misinterpreted? (okay -- your regular partner might infer that you don't have a diamond control, but worrying about that with a pick-up seems silly. and it still doesn't make 3NT make any sense.)

Susan

[Gerben42]

I wouldn't dare 1N - 3♥ or similar, and also won't count on partner realizing that 1N - 2♦ - 2♥ - 4♥ is a slam try which in my opinion is the right way to approach the hand: Partner I am very strong but I lack controls, do you have some? 3NT is the worst bid of the sequence.

[frouu]

I agree with Gerben42. If partnership uses both texas & jacoby transfers, with 6 hearts; use jacoby for slam try, texas for sign off at 4♥. i.e: 1NT/2♦/2♥/4♥ is slam try while 1NT/4♦/4♥ is sign-off.