[mike777]

Scoring: MP

1H=(2D)=3D=(4D)
4H=P====P===(5D)
?

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This was one of two disasters tonight against this pair who won the event with 75%.

I did not come close to judging what I should do on this hand correctly. Any input welcome.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

5H.

Most likely it wont matter, but dbl is out
(this would show a clear penalty dbl or
at lease a hand with no interest at all playing
5H.)

The only alternative, would be pass (forcing).
But due to my shape I have doubts, that partner
will be able to judge the situation correct.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Robert]

Hi everyone

Playing standard methods, pass. This is a forcing pass 'suggesting' that you 'think' that your hand has features that suggest bidding higher. Partner is supposed to 'look at his hand' and in the light of your forcing pass 'make a informed decision.'

Partner is in a much better position to judge your combined assets 'after' your forcing pass. If you bid in front of your partner, he would not be able to use his fine bidding skills.

Regards,
Robert

[Codo]

You freely bid game, so pass is obvious forcing and correct. There are arguments to double and arguments to bid 5 ♥. so lets Pd decide.

[Gpm_bg]

what is 3♦, only cuebid fit or bergen raise ?
1st if it's only cuebid 5!d is strong enough
but if it's a bergen who guranteed 4+trumps, 5♥ is neccessary becouse your diamond control can't be shown for your partner 3♦ bid promise only trumps and limited pnts, so you can show the first control

i would bid 5♥, or if play with player who i know well (and i know what consist 3♦ bergen), 5♠

[whereagles]

In robson/segal style, pass is forcing and 3♦ is a defensive raise. I estimate pard's hand, if min, to oscillate between, say,

Kxx
Axx
Kxx
Jxxx

and

KQx
Axx
xx
Qxxx

I have the feeling 5♥ is right, but somehow I'm talking myself into passing the decision to pard... Anyway. Pass if pard and I are in the same wavelength, 5♥ otherwise.

[helene_t]

Not sure what your 4♥ in the previous round showed. Probably something like this hand. Maybe it did not promise a diamond control. But with two small diamonds I would almost surely double now if not before. So a forcing pass seems obvious. I would like to have a slightly worse hand for this bidding, at least if 3♦ was GF.

[Walddk]

We haven't been told what 3♦ was, but I assume limit or better with heart support.

I will pass now and leave it to partner. He knows I have a singleton diamond (else double) and is in much better position to judge. I think I know his hand from another thread in the forums, and if that is what he has got, he will surely double.

Ron Klinger strikes again. The 5-level belongs to the opponents.

Roland

[flytoox]

4H has already bid out your hand. I think now you have to dbl. Your hand is min and defensive in the context. If the CQ is changed to sQ, I would choose pass. But now I think it is wiser to dbl.

[mcphee]

Pass is forcing and is exactly what I have, an invite for us to play 5H.

[neilkaz]

Once again, I must mention that it is easier to respond if we know what any slightly unusual bids mean. I presume the 3♦ is the typical Q=LROB that I play with many PD's.

IMHO, 4♥ bid your hand perfectly and now with mediocre defensive values and decent offence, you don't have a clue as to whether to whack 5♦ or carry on to 5♥.

So, make an obviously forcing pass which pretty much shows what you have and passes the buck to PD to make an informed decision.

[mike777]

Scoring: MP

1H=(2D)=3D=(4D)
4H= P = P =(5D)
P = = = X= P
PP

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Defended 5DX for a bottom.

[mike777]

Jlall, on Dec 1 2006, 12:06 PM, said:

It happens mike, you kind of got fixed by them bidding 5D. The hands fit extremely well and you were still on a hook through the non overcaller. South would have passed with 6331 as well, so its hard to know. If you ever become 100 % accurate in razor thin situations like this let me know, but until then I'm a big believer in just taking the cash and not speculating on 5 over 5 if there is doubt.

Thanks for the feedback.....the 2d overcall got us too I think on that hand. They did have a75% game and bid 6nt on the other hand us against for our other tie for a bottom board.