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uncontested. 1♠-1nt-?
I tried to cover all bases with the poll choices though some I think won't necessarily garner any votes.
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Choose your rebid with a long suit
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Posted 2006-October-29, 00:37
uncontested. 1♠-1nt-?
I tried to cover all bases with the poll choices though some I think won't necessarily garner any votes.
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Posted 2006-October-29, 00:46
Tricky I tend to blast 3nt, often with disastrous results.
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Posted 2006-October-29, 00:57
Close to me between 3S and 4S, but I'm just going to go with 3 at MP. I think there are more hands where he'll pass where game is good than hands he'll pass where game is bad. A lot of this depends on style as well (do you bid 3S pretty light? do you respond pretty light? etc). We also might get to a superior 3N if partner bids that over 3S (I will pass it). Bidding 3D is just lol to me.
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Posted 2006-October-29, 02:32
3♠ or 4♠, depening how I feel.
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Posted 2006-October-29, 03:02
I voted 4S and afterwards saw it is MP's. At Imp's I would always bid 4, at MP's it is close between 3 and 4. With these honours in short suits I probably bid 3S at MP's. Maybe 3NT is the best contract.
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Posted 2006-October-29, 05:37
Hi,
3S, I can understand 4S, but if 1NT was forcing
with 4-7 a spade fit, you may find it hard to get
your 10th trick.
Even if playing IMP's partner will raise most of the
time, if it is right, so 3S.
With kind regards
Marlowe
3S, I can understand 4S, but if 1NT was forcing
with 4-7 a spade fit, you may find it hard to get
your 10th trick.
Even if playing IMP's partner will raise most of the
time, if it is right, so 3S.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2006-October-29, 08:09
2♣ Gazzilli. But if not that then 3♠, THis hand has a lot more in hcp that playing strenght. maybe 3NT is the best spot.
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Posted 2006-October-30, 11:33
Clear 3S to me. HCPs in red suit (especially KQ) are not good, I don't bid 4S. With 7th spades, I don't think NT is a choice at all.
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Posted 2006-October-30, 11:45
I play methods over a semi-forcing/forcing NT so I don't have this problem, but even if you don't....
If you open 1NT with a 5-card major and a balanced 15-17, what do you think 2NT shows? 18-19 balanced? If so, that leaves 3NT to show long spades.
You can decide this hand isn't good enough, but in my view the choice is between 3S (invite) and 3NT (long spades, game force).
If you open 1NT with a 5-card major and a balanced 15-17, what do you think 2NT shows? 18-19 balanced? If so, that leaves 3NT to show long spades.
You can decide this hand isn't good enough, but in my view the choice is between 3S (invite) and 3NT (long spades, game force).
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Posted 2006-October-30, 11:53
I'd bid 4♠ with this hand, as my 3♠ jump rebids are quite aggressive (pretty much any 15 with a decent 6-card suit).
The definition of 3NT depends a bit on partnership. You could define it as "a good hand with a long spade suit" but I think most people define it more carefully as a hand where 3NT will often be the right contract (for example would you rebid 3NT on AQJxxxx x Ax AKx). Despite the semi-balanced shape I don't think it's all that likely 3NT is right here. You basically need spades to run (otherwise opponents can surely knock out a stopper somewhere and then run their tricks) and if spades run you'll almost always make 4♠ (there are nine easy tricks and pd needs some help in clubs for 3NT to have play). Move the ♥Q to spades and I'd be happier with a 3NT bid.
The definition of 3NT depends a bit on partnership. You could define it as "a good hand with a long spade suit" but I think most people define it more carefully as a hand where 3NT will often be the right contract (for example would you rebid 3NT on AQJxxxx x Ax AKx). Despite the semi-balanced shape I don't think it's all that likely 3NT is right here. You basically need spades to run (otherwise opponents can surely knock out a stopper somewhere and then run their tricks) and if spades run you'll almost always make 4♠ (there are nine easy tricks and pd needs some help in clubs for 3NT to have play). Move the ♥Q to spades and I'd be happier with a 3NT bid.
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Posted 2006-October-30, 12:10
FrancesHinden, on Oct 30 2006, 07:45 PM, said:
I play methods over a semi-forcing/forcing NT so I don't have this problem, but even if you don't....
If you open 1NT with a 5-card major and a balanced 15-17, what do you think 2NT shows? 18-19 balanced? If so, that leaves 3NT to show long spades.
You can decide this hand isn't good enough, but in my view the choice is between 3S (invite) and 3NT (long spades, game force).
If you open 1NT with a 5-card major and a balanced 15-17, what do you think 2NT shows? 18-19 balanced? If so, that leaves 3NT to show long spades.
You can decide this hand isn't good enough, but in my view the choice is between 3S (invite) and 3NT (long spades, game force).
I always assumed 3N shows (almost) running spades.
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Posted 2006-October-30, 12:51
3♠. The AK-7th is nice, but the doubleton honors and 7=2=2=2 sucks. K and R puts it at 20.95, but thats before we know pard doesn't have a big spade fit.
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Posted 2006-October-30, 17:13
3♠ at MPs. Need to involve pard.
4♠ at IMPs. The game bonus is priceless.
There are many hands that pard can have for 1NT that lack spade support and have club values. What I'm concerned with is something like a 1-5-3-4 hand (or worse) and not being able to get to dummy (imaging JH and KJ of clubs with the J of spades stiff).
4♠ at IMPs. The game bonus is priceless.
There are many hands that pard can have for 1NT that lack spade support and have club values. What I'm concerned with is something like a 1-5-3-4 hand (or worse) and not being able to get to dummy (imaging JH and KJ of clubs with the J of spades stiff).
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Posted 2006-October-31, 12:34
Because much of the field will be in 4♠, I'm looking forward to getting a solid plus score with 3♠= or 3NT+1.
(and besides, if 3♠ is 16-18 with 6+ cards, why not use this descriptive bid?)
(and besides, if 3♠ is 16-18 with 6+ cards, why not use this descriptive bid?)
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2006-November-07, 18:06
It looks like the only guys playing in that sectional two weeks ago in San Jose were the 4s bidders. We would have gotten some Match Points had some of you 3s'ers showed up 
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