What's the meaning of
playing 2/1 and NT Forcing
1H 1N*
2C 2S
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2/1 1H 1ST* 2C 2S meaning?
#2
Posted 2006-November-06, 12:25
This is called an impossible 2♠ bid, and generally shows a "strong" raise to 3 of the openers minor, while the direct raise to 3 of the minor is weaker (of course, the 1NT opener can ot be all that strong).
I have seen other meanings as well, but this seems the most common.
I have seen other meanings as well, but this seems the most common.
--Ben--
#3
Posted 2006-November-06, 12:31
I play it as a 2N call without a spade stop, and implying club support. I have no idea what is considered 'standard', but Ben's definition comes close I think.
"Phil" on BBO
#4
Posted 2006-November-06, 12:50
Ben's answer is what I'd consider standard too. This allows responder to distinguish between a very poor hand (pass), a modest raise (perhaps 6-9), and a good raise (perhaps 10-11).
I'd also say this should be true in most systems, although the ranges may be different.
Paul
I'd also say this should be true in most systems, although the ranges may be different.
Paul
#6
Posted 2006-November-06, 13:55
cardsharp, on Nov 6 2006, 01:50 PM, said:
Ben's answer is what I'd consider standard too. This allows responder to distinguish between a very poor hand (pass), a modest raise (perhaps 6-9), and a good raise (perhaps 10-11).
I'd also say this should be true in most systems, although the ranges may be different.
Paul
I'd also say this should be true in most systems, although the ranges may be different.
Paul
Agreed and just what I play .. neilkaz ..
#7
Posted 2006-November-06, 14:02
Very similar -- impossible spade meaning club raise.
One distinction, however. The 3♣ raise is more preemptive, with longer support required but fewer points. 2♠, in contrast, could be four-card support, although longer support is possible. This caters to a 2♣ rebid that is semi-manufactured.
One distinction, however. The 3♣ raise is more preemptive, with longer support required but fewer points. 2♠, in contrast, could be four-card support, although longer support is possible. This caters to a 2♣ rebid that is semi-manufactured.
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