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#1 User is offline   pbleighton 

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Posted 2006-November-05, 20:44

Matchpoints, unfavorable.

You have K8-AQ1098-9-AJ872.You open 1H, and it goes P-1S(your P)-2D.

Your call?

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Posted 2006-November-05, 20:47

3C no problems yet :)

Playing good/bad 2nt I choose 3clubs...I could bid 2nt(not natural) if weaker.
Partner will expect 0-2 spades in my hand very often.
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Posted 2006-November-05, 21:05

Mike (and any other 3C bidders), do you consider 3C to be forcing?

Peter
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Posted 2006-November-05, 21:09

3C as well. I think it is not forcing but invitational.
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Posted 2006-November-05, 21:23

pbleighton, on Nov 5 2006, 10:05 PM, said:

Mike (and any other 3C bidders), do you consider 3C to be forcing?

Peter

No but extra's.

I would say at least 14 hcp and 2 good suits.

That means with a game force hand I need to come up something else? Cuebid since I play support x here or 2nt(good/bad) and rebid over forced 3clubs with more?
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Posted 2006-November-05, 22:00

3♣ non forcing for me, but obviously with more playing strength than a min.

If I want to GF I can Q-bid 3♦ if options like good/bad 2NT and/or sup X aren't being played.

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Posted 2006-November-05, 22:38

Hi everyone

I play both good/bad 2NT and support doubles so 2NT to show a distribution bid 'with less than three spades.'

Mike777 If 3C shows 14+HCP and two good suits, what do you do with 17-18HCP?
Partner gets to take a view of your bid showing 14-18 with no room to explore.

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Posted 2006-November-06, 00:15

3C, of course. I would say it is semi-forcing.
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Posted 2006-November-06, 00:43

Robert, on Nov 5 2006, 11:38 PM, said:

Hi everyone

I play both good/bad 2NT and support doubles so 2NT to show a distribution bid 'with less than three spades.'

Mike777  If 3C shows 14+HCP and two good suits, what do you do with 17-18HCP?
Partner gets to take a view of your bid showing 14-18 with no room to explore.

Regards,
Robert

I guess i could cuebid or bid 2nt(good/bad) and rebid showing some max but non game force?

In truth I hardly ever have 17-18 nonbalanced game force hands/ on this exact bidding?
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Posted 2006-November-06, 02:59

pbleighton, on Nov 5 2006, 10:05 PM, said:

Mike (and any other 3C bidders), do you consider 3C to be forcing?

Peter

Hi,

depends on the meaning of 2NT (good-bad).
I play, that the weaker hands get bid direct,
i.e. 3C is nonforcing.

With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2006-November-06, 04:56

I bid 3♣ which should be stronger than 2NT. I think it's forcing but if partner thinks differently and passes it's probably fine.
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Posted 2006-November-06, 07:41

Well, I'm going to double 2♦ for take-out. There's no certainty of a fit and we're not that strong in this auction.

Dbl keeps bidding low and allows pard to select a suit or passing for penalties. In fact, it's a textbook example of a Robson/Segal take-out double.
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