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#1 User is offline   paulg 

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Posted 2006-October-14, 02:31

Scoring: IMP

West North East South
1♠ Pass 3♠ ?

3♠ is preemptive

Do you think this is worth getting involved at this vulnerability? Or do you want to wait?
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Posted 2006-October-14, 02:53

3NT for the minors.

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Posted 2006-October-14, 05:45

Unfavorable at IMPs and a lousy diamond suit (where we are most likely to play after 3NT) make me pass this one.

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Posted 2006-October-14, 08:42

I risk 4NT minor t/o as 3NT should be to play for most. It strikes me as unreasonable to have 3NT show minors. At least when partner is 2-2 in the minors we will play C, which we may indeed regret.
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Posted 2006-October-14, 10:14

3N is natural!

I pass.
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Posted 2006-October-14, 10:32

4C for me. Gets the right lead, if we hit a fit we might find a making 5C, and we're unlikely to get Xed (if LHO has a big hand he'll usually bid 4S, if partner has one we probably have a make somewhere).
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Posted 2006-October-14, 12:21

4C or 4NT. I wouldn't consider 3NT which, for a lot of players, would be to play.
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Posted 2006-October-14, 14:53

I once (many years ago) played against Soloway-Chambers. Chambers perpetrated a 3N takeout, which played poorly after Soloway passed. Soloway's only comment was '3N is always to play'. Who am I to argue?

4N too much, and I am not passing with the intention of bidding later: I bid now or never, and it is close to never. Honesty makes me say that at the table I would almost certainly pass: but I suspect that bidding 4♣ is the long term winner.
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Posted 2006-October-15, 01:50

The bidders win here. I passed and knew it was wrong as soon as the hand was passed out.

Partner held

♠ K J x x
♥ J 10
♦ A J x x
♣ K 9 x

and game makes in either minor as the opener holds the ♦K. The spade preemptor held six hearts to the king.

At the other table team mates could have passed out 3♣ but naturally continued competing in the majors until they pushed the opps into 5♣ :)

I also believe that 3NT is natural, so the choices were 4♣ or 4NT for me .... or pass :)

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Posted 2006-October-16, 11:02

A void and a 65?? No way I'm passing this. 4NT.
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Posted 2006-October-17, 00:37

I think justins 4 Club is the best bid.

But I won´t have problems with a 3 NT bid either. Pd has spades stopped or can see that my 3 NT is take out (as he can in this hand) or opener will bid on. It will seldom happen, that 3 NT is passed out and works badly.
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Posted 2006-October-17, 03:00

I will quote from Jeff Goldsmith's imperious rules of bridge:

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56. Grant Baze says, "six-five, come alive." It often pays to bid with 6-5 hands, even when you think it's nuts.


That being said, the hand doesn't look that great with soft values. So if I took a bid, it would be one shot at the 4 level. Easy for me to say now I know.
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