[mike777]

Scoring: MP

1NT(14-16)=P=?

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Partner opens 1NT, 14-16, at MP your call and why?

[hrothgar]

mike777, on Oct 13 2006, 06:41 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

1NT(14-16)=P=?

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Partner opens 1NT, 14-16, at MP your call and why?

Pass seems clear cut...

The only thig that has any slight appeal, is 2♣ intending to pass any response. However, this plan suffers from three flaws

1. You have enough strength that 1N should make
2. You have slow tricks and intermediate cards, suggesting a NT contract
3. You'll be badly placed opposite a 3=3=2=5 hand

[pbleighton]

I agree with Richard.

Peter

[HeartA]

pass, wtp?

[P_Marlowe]

Pass?

No need to run from 1NT.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[SoTired]

pass - not even close. opposite a 15-17, i pass. Opposite a 16-18, i pass.

[neilkaz]

SoTired, on Oct 13 2006, 01:34 PM, said:

pass - not even close. opposite a 15-17, i pass. Opposite a 16-18, i pass.

This quacky junk is the finest pass ever dealt to anyone opposite a 15-17 and it is very pushy to try for game opposite a 16-18.

[jillybean]

I agree with everyone


ps Mike agrees with me too!

[mikeh]

this one is so obvious that it makes one wonder why it was posted. any call other than pass is not even remotely justified, even if it worked.

[mike777]

Well I passed too, and we got a very poor MP score for down 2 as they took the first 8 tricks. Partner had a balanced 15 but many found the 4-4 spade fit which made 2.

[hrothgar]

mike777, on Oct 13 2006, 10:51 PM, said:

Well I passed too, and we got a very poor MP score for down 2 as they took the first 8 tricks. Partner had a balanced 15 but many found the 4-4 spade fit which made 2. 

Sometimes the right bid leads to a poor result... Be glad that you have folks like Mike choosing the same action.

I do admit that i am somewhat suprised that the field is landing in two Spades. The BBO forum panel is unanimous in recommending a pass. That doesn't happen very often. It makes very little sense that we'd all think that something was obvious, yet the field disagreed.

The most logical conclusion is that the field didn't face the same auction. Potentially your partner had a dreadful 15 count that most folks would downgrade. Alternatively, its possible that the opponents intervened over 1M.

For what its worth, I just went and skimmed the hand database for the past two days. From what I can tell, very few people chose to open 1NT with your partner's hand. Your partner held

♠ AK43
♥ T65
♦ 65
♣ AKJ8

Almost all the Spade contracts seem to have resulted from a 1♣ or a 1♠ opening bid. Personally, I'd open this 1N playing a 15-17 HCP 1N opening, however, I can see how some folks might think that the combination of Aces and Kings and two wide open suits suggest a suit opening.

There are also a few hands that started with a 1NT opening where the opponents chose to intervene and went down in 2♦ or 2♥.

[mikeh]

mike777, on Oct 13 2006, 02:51 PM, said:

Well I passed too, and we got a very poor MP score for down 2 as they took the first 8 tricks. Partner had a balanced 15 but many found the 4-4 spade fit which made 2. 

So what?

Others play different notrump ranges and reach ♠s. Big Deal.

Anyone who thinks that the success of bidding here means that bidding was correct is either already a bad player or is headed that way. The game is a game of percentages. Bidding here is ludicrous.

If you draw any bidding lesson here, it is to change your 1N range. But even that is flawed thinking: presumably you adopted 14-16 because you felt that, on balance, this range worked well within your system. If you cannot accept that proper bidding will get you a number of poor results, go play checkers Bridge is not for you.

Mike... that comment was generic, not aimed at you