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Posted 2006-October-04, 19:48

Please list and discuss any bread and butter auctions that you see most Int. level players mess up time and time again. :P
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Posted 2006-October-04, 20:27

Openings and rebids holding balanced, 18-19 count
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Posted 2006-October-04, 22:59

1. 1C - 1M - 2D and not having a reverse.
2. Almost any kind of reverses and how to bid afterwards.
3. Ace asking auctions with a suit wide open.
4. Bidding the same values twice.
5. Takeout versus penalty doubles.
6. Opening 2 suiters that are strong 2C.
7. Lastly, competitive auctions where pard thinks you have more than you showed.
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Posted 2006-October-05, 05:45

values for balancing 1NT in 4th seat

takeout doubles without extra stregnth or proper shape (not playing equal level conversion)

Failure to make a jump response to takeout doubles when they should

Overbidding strong hands because they had "xx" points

Preempting then bidding the suit again without input from partner

Limiting their hand (by bidding natural NT for exampe) and then taking a unilateral decision later in the auction. and other failures to understanding the principle of who is the captain of the auction
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Posted 2006-October-05, 07:57

Vulnerable overcalls at IMPs.
Failure to jump (or cue-bid) in response to take-out doubles, as Ben said.
Use Blackwood when 4NT should be quanti.
Open 2♣ with hands that should be opened 1m.
Failure to open 1NT with hands that have no rebid otherwise.
Telling one's hand twice (especially after having preempted or made a t/o double).
Thinking that p's repeated t/o double means "sorry, my previous t/o double was in fact penalty".
Thinking that p's lead-directing double is t/o.
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Posted 2006-October-05, 08:25

Opening 2C of strong two suiters that are not handled well that way. Best to open 1 of a suit... (of course, better to open misiry, but we will not go there).
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Posted 2006-October-05, 08:55

I think any auction involving judgement is where intermediates struggle. This includes
  • Overbidding good hands and underbidding poor ones
  • Pre-emptive bidding
  • Responding to takeout doubles
As they improve and move to advanced and higher, it is still judgement that sets people apart but in different areas (e.g., 5-level decisions, slam bidding).

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Posted 2006-October-05, 11:33

I see many intermediates bidding again in a competitive auction when they should just pass because they have already shown their hand.
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Posted 2006-October-05, 11:41

Quick question: I'm not sure whether we're discussing issues related to judgement or bidding system.

There's very little that scares me more than a pickup partner bidding 2N over my 1m opening. I have no clue whether partner plays this as forcing or not. However, this really isn't any example where the the bididng is difficult; rather its an example where there is a lot of confusion regarding what bidding system folks are playing.

If I had to pick a single auction that folks seem to get wrong an awful lot, I'd agree with earlier posters about auctions like

1♣ - (P) - 1♥ - (1♠)
1N
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