Responding in competition Spades, Diamonds, Pass, Other?
#1
Posted 2006-October-05, 06:19
pard opens 1♦
RHO Doubles for take out
whats your bid, holding
♠ Q 9 5 4 3
♥ void
♦ Q 6 4 2
♣ x x x x
#2
Posted 2006-October-05, 06:38
1S I think makes easy for LHO to guess his p suits
pass let LHO to bid his best suit at low level
best regards
jocdelevat
best regards
jocdelevat
#3
Posted 2006-October-05, 06:46
1S, I have spades, I have a 5 card suit,
no reason to hide the spade suit.
I will bid diamonds the next round as
cheaply as possble and compete upto 3D.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#4
Posted 2006-October-05, 06:47
jocdelevat, on Oct 5 2006, 07:38 AM, said:
1S I think makes easy for LHO to guess his p suits
pass let LHO to bid his best suit at low level
best regards
jocdelevat
And you really think, 2D will stop the
opponents from bidding 2H?
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#5
Posted 2006-October-05, 06:57
#6
Posted 2006-October-05, 06:57
I voted 1♠ but I might bid 4♦ at favorable.
#7
Posted 2006-October-05, 07:29
just another remark, the treatment of inv. minors I prefer is,
that inv. minors are off in case the auction got competitiv.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#8
Posted 2006-October-05, 08:54
#9
Posted 2006-October-05, 10:00
Echognome, on Oct 5 2006, 03:54 PM, said:
Yep. Obviously the odds are slightly less favourable in SAYC than if 1♦ promised four cards, but the existence of this one particular hand type is not enough to make me want to change my bid.
#10
Posted 2006-October-05, 10:16
I'd bid ♦ next if I have to.
Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
#11
Posted 2006-October-05, 10:20
Change my hand to: Qxxxx, xx, Qxxx, xx and 2♦ has more going for it.
#12
Posted 2006-October-05, 11:09
david_c, on Oct 5 2006, 04:00 PM, said:
Echognome, on Oct 5 2006, 03:54 PM, said:
Yep. Obviously the odds are slightly less favourable in SAYC than if 1♦ promised four cards, but the existence of this one particular hand type is not enough to make me want to change my bid.
This ONE hand type is ANY weak NT hand with either 4 diamonds, or with 3-2 or with some people any weak NT hand where diamonds are better than clubs (e.g. 4333). So I would guess it's accounting for at least 40% of the openings. Opposite a weak NT are we interested in jumping around in diamonds or bidding our spades? To me that makes it clear.
#13
Posted 2006-October-05, 12:09
Im confuse here and I do not understand the 1s bid.
1. is IMPS tourney no matchpoints to bid agressive and we are in a competitive auction.
2. Our hand has 4 points plus distribution will be 9 or 7. Our 5 card suit is very poor.
3. I see more chances for my pard to have hearts and the doubler to have spades and if my pard bid 1nt after 1s he will be in a sandwich position. What my pard can bid after 1s?
4. 2d offer he posibbilty to ruff or discard on hearts. It will not stop opps from bidding but the level will be higer with less information and I think my hand will be good for defense on 2 other suits.
5. Please can someone visualize how my pard hand look and doubler hand.
6. Everytime when I bid such weak hand I got criticize with same replay "you should pass with 4 points"
best regards
jocdelevat
best regards
jocdelevat
#14
Posted 2006-October-05, 12:14
#15
Posted 2006-October-05, 12:26
jocdelevat, on Oct 5 2006, 10:09 AM, said:
Im confuse here and I do not understand the 1s bid.
1. is IMPS tourney no matchpoints to bid agressive and we are in a competitive auction.
2. Our hand has 4 points plus distribution will be 9 or 7
3. I see more chances for my pard to have hearts and the doubler to have spades and if my pard bid 1nt after 1s he will be in a sandwich position. What my pard can bid after 1s?
4. 2d offer he posibbilty to ruff or discard on hearts. It will not stop opps from bidding but the level will be higer with less information and I think my hand will be good for defense on 2 other suits.
5. Please can someone visualize how my pard hand look and doubler hand.
6. Everytime when I bid such weak hand I got criticize with same replay "you should pass with 4 points"
best regards
jocdelevat
When I started bridge I used to feel the same way, but why couldn't pard have a mundane:
AKxx
xxxx
Axxx
x
?
A hand like this will usually produce game both ways in spades and hearts (or diamonds, and even maybe clubs). It is nearly impossible to find spades if we start with 2♦. LHO will bounce in hearts and our spade fit will be completely buried.
Contrast the attractiveness of a game in spades with my other hand: Qxxxx, xx, Qxxx, x. Certainly, spades is a better part score, but we aren't close to making 10 tricks.
#16
Posted 2006-October-05, 12:47
jocdelevat, on Oct 5 2006, 01:09 PM, said:
Im confuse here and I do not understand the 1s bid.
1. is IMPS tourney no matchpoints to bid agressive and we are in a competitive auction.
2. Our hand has 4 points plus distribution will be 9 or 7. Our 5 card suit is very poor.
3. I see more chances for my pard to have hearts and the doubler to have spades and if my pard bid 1nt after 1s he will be in a sandwich position. What my pard can bid after 1s?
4. 2d offer he posibbilty to ruff or discard on hearts. It will not stop opps from bidding but the level will be higer with less information and I think my hand will be good for defense on 2 other suits.
5. Please can someone visualize how my pard hand look and doubler hand.
6. Everytime when I bid such weak hand I got criticize with same replay "you should pass with 4 points"
best regards
jocdelevat
1) According to Marshall Miles, playing IMP's, you should fight for
your part score nearly as hard as playing MP's
2) the spade suit is the boss suit
3) this asumes, everyone makes shape oriented take out dbls,
... a hard assumption
4) you can also ruff, if spades are trump
6) ignore the remarks, mark the guys as "result merchants"
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)

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