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#1 User is offline   badderzboy 

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Posted 2006-October-04, 02:30

After a night of mad hands this hand turns and just as you are about to possibly show a 2 suited hand for the 4th time!

Scoring: MP


East passes and I did the same

Q1 - do u agree?

West now bids 4♣ ((described as strong long suit but pre-emptive in nature) and partner bids 4♥s and East 5♣s.

Q2 what do u do now 5♥,DBL or pass?

If u bid 5♥ then South bids 6♣s.... and is passed around to you

Q3 Do u bid 6♥ or dbl or pass?

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Posted 2006-October-04, 04:19

Q1: If I can show a weak two suiter I will, else I pass

Q2: 5 ♥

q 3: X
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Posted 2006-October-04, 10:23

Hi,

q1: pass
q2: pass
q3: pass

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Marlowe
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Posted 2006-October-04, 10:40

Yes I pass the first time too.

Isn't this second pass forcing by definition? A preempt has been raised by a passed hand creates a force our way.

Let pard make the decision. I won't mind dbl or 5♥.
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Posted 2006-October-04, 11:50

>Isn't this second pass forcing by definition? A preempt has been raised by a passed hand creates a force our way.

Phil,
Is this the common expert method?

Am I understanding this correctly?

What if the passed hand has a max passed hand, with a good fit.
2♠ - bid - 3♠ -

pard may have a good hand, and you may have a dog. Will pard really double on his own? (forcing pass)
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Posted 2006-October-04, 12:08

Question is, Who's zoomin' who?" Since you have no C and p may have xx or worse whatever happens you don't have a hand that is defensively oriented so I would just quietly bid 5H, expecting to make. Pass the 6 C to pard, you have told your story with the one bid of 5H.
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Posted 2006-October-04, 13:32

ArcLight, on Oct 4 2006, 09:50 AM, said:

>Isn't this second pass forcing by definition? A preempt has been raised by a passed hand creates a force our way.

Phil,
Is this the common expert method?

Am I understanding this correctly?

What if the passed hand has a max passed hand, with a good fit.
2♠ - bid - 3♠ -

pard may have a good hand, and you may have a dog. Will pard really double on his own? (forcing pass)

I think it applies to higher levels; perhaps 4; definitely 5.
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Posted 2006-October-04, 13:48

Some people treat p p 2M bid 4M as a forcing pass sequence. I don't, mainly because I'm allergic to them and there are a lot of hands where they just make 4M and we go for a number if we have to bid. I think you have to treat p p 3m bid 5m and this auction as forcing though... making 11 tricks for a passed hand opposite a preempt is much harder than 10. Sure occasionally you will go for 750 but it isn't really much of a disaster, and from a fequency point of view you will be gaining a lot.
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Posted 2006-October-05, 00:30

1) i will open if i have a 2 suiter bid available
2) 5D
3) double

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Posted 2006-October-05, 03:05

1. Pass unless I have a method for 2-suiters
2. Dbl, most flexible
3. 6♥, 5-level belongs to opps, 6-level belongs to us :P
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