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#1 User is offline   mikeh 

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Posted 2006-October-02, 09:14

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You open 1♦, LHO bids 1♠, RHO bids 1N, LHO 2♣ and RHO corrects to 2♠, which is passed out. Partner leads the ♦10, covered by the J, you win the Q (declarer follows with the 3)and it is your lead. What card do you play and why? Both opps are experts

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Posted 2006-October-02, 12:13

Cash A♥ return 6♥ hoping to catch lho with Q or J
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Posted 2006-October-02, 13:03

I'm a simple soul. I lead a trump to stop the Club ruff. There must be something deeper. Don't see how knowing the opps are experts is going to help me.
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Posted 2006-October-02, 13:06

I lead diamond K I think pard lead was from 109x then 6 diamond. If 10 d sugest hearts lead back then I have a dilema when looking at the board with so many hearts.
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Posted 2006-October-02, 13:10

1eyedjack, on Oct 2 2006, 02:03 PM, said:

I'm a simple soul.  I lead a trump to stop the Club ruff.  There must be something deeper.  Don't see how knowing the opps are experts is going to help me.

close: the question was 'which card' :P So which trump, and why?

I was thinking about which part to post in: perhaps this should have been 'interesting hands', and it is definitely not a beginner issue: I was hoping it would be a good intermediate problem, but it may be too subtle.
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Posted 2006-October-02, 13:16

mikeh, on Oct 2 2006, 08:10 PM, said:

1eyedjack, on Oct 2 2006, 02:03 PM, said:

I'm a simple soul.  I lead a trump to stop the Club ruff.  There must be something deeper.  Don't see how knowing the opps are experts is going to help me.

close: the question was 'which card' :P So which trump, and why?

I was thinking about which part to post in: perhaps this should have been 'interesting hands', and it is definitely not a beginner issue: I was hoping it would be a good intermediate problem, but it may be too subtle.

The Jack, I suppose, in case declarer has AT8.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

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Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

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Posted 2006-October-02, 13:35

1eyedjack, on Oct 2 2006, 02:16 PM, said:

mikeh, on Oct 2 2006, 08:10 PM, said:

1eyedjack, on Oct 2 2006, 02:03 PM, said:

I'm a simple soul.  I lead a trump to stop the Club ruff.  There must be something deeper.  Don't see how knowing the opps are experts is going to help me.

close: the question was 'which card' :P So which trump, and why?

I was thinking about which part to post in: perhaps this should have been 'interesting hands', and it is definitely not a beginner issue: I was hoping it would be a good intermediate problem, but it may be too subtle.

The Jack, I suppose, in case declarer has AT8.

Bingo!

We have to switch to a trump to prevent declarer ruffing a ♣ in dummy, but if he has, for example, A108xx KQ xx Q9xx: a decent overcall, we need to play the Jack, otherwise we are cutting down on the ruff at the expense of our side's natural trump trick. And there is no holding on which the J costs compared to a low one.
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Posted 2006-October-02, 15:58

mikeh, on Oct 2 2006, 11:35 AM, said:

1eyedjack, on Oct 2 2006, 02:16 PM, said:

mikeh, on Oct 2 2006, 08:10 PM, said:

1eyedjack, on Oct 2 2006, 02:03 PM, said:

I'm a simple soul.  I lead a trump to stop the Club ruff.  There must be something deeper.  Don't see how knowing the opps are experts is going to help me.

close: the question was 'which card' :P So which trump, and why?

I was thinking about which part to post in: perhaps this should have been 'interesting hands', and it is definitely not a beginner issue: I was hoping it would be a good intermediate problem, but it may be too subtle.

The Jack, I suppose, in case declarer has AT8.

Bingo!

We have to switch to a trump to prevent declarer ruffing a ♣ in dummy, but if he has, for example, A108xx KQ xx Q9xx: a decent overcall, we need to play the Jack, otherwise we are cutting down on the ruff at the expense of our side's natural trump trick. And there is no holding on which the J costs compared to a low one.

I started to post here and thought about the Jack too. Its probably right on balance, but it could be wrong for instance if:

1. Pard has a trump to promote and declarer doesn't need a heart pitch on a diamond.

2. Pard has some Qx spade combinations and without the ♣10. Declarer still needs to give up the club (so doesn't need the ruff). We've skewered the spade suit in the process.
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Posted 2006-October-03, 12:43

A significant question is why pard, faced with the preference auction, chose NOT to lead trump.......Either he has a holding that gives up too much or he has another plan. Now, since he never supported D, he is still likely to have 4 (as declarer seems to be 5314) so he must be looking to just get out of his hand. Dummy is not likely to produce a lot of tricks as long as it doesnt get a ruff (or ruffs) so the trump switch is defendable and you will enjoy hearing why pard chose the D lead.....
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