[nielsfoged]

Scoring: IMP

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Being my first post at this forum, it better be representative of my major experience with this game:
I made a mistake, but at least it was yet a new one!

Bidding went:
pass-(pass)-1♣-(1♥),
2♣-(3♥)-pass-(pass),
3♠-(pass)-3NT-(4♥),
Dbl-all pass

Opponents bid naturally, whereas my 1♣ was either natural or 15-19 bal, pd's 2♣ was 6-9 hcps with 5+c ♣ and less than 4c ♠, my pass was 15-16(17) bal, pds 3♠ showed a stopper, and his Dbl was to discourage further bidding.

Out came ♥4 covered by 6.
How do you plan the defense?

[Apollo81]

nielsfoged, on Oct 3 2006, 02:18 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

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Being my first post at this forum, it better be representative of my major experience with this game:
I made a mistake, but at least it was yet a new one!

Bidding went:
pass-(pass)-1♣-(1♥),
2♣-(3♥)-pass-(pass),
3♠-(pass)-3NT-(4♥),
Dbl-all pass

Opponents bid naturally, whereas my 1♣ was either natural or 15-19 bal, pd's 2♣ was 6-9 hcps with 5+c ♣ and less than 4c ♠, my pass was 15-16(17) bal, pds 3♠ showed a stopper, and his Dbl was to discourage further bidding.

Out came ♥4 covered by 6.
How do you plan the defense?

If I am reading the auction right...

Declarer has 4513 shape or something close. He may need to ruff four black cards in dummy or potentially 3-4 diamonds in his hand.

Rise ♥K and plan to lead another trump when I am in. If/when I am in after that I will try to force dummy using the clubs. Hop dA if led from dummy to guard against stiff K. If partner's count indicates a 3-card diamond holding then may need to cash black tricks to prevent declarer discarding all of his clubs/spades (depending on his shape)

Best I can give only knowing play from dummy.

-Noble

[mikeh]

I will play a low trump at trick one. This may be critical.

If he plays a ♦ from dummy, rise with the A and watch partner's card: if he shows an odd number, cash out In case declarer has an unlikely KQ tight in ♦.

An even number, exit the (carefully preserved) trump K. Note that had you played the K at trick 1 and declarer exits the ♦K, you win and a low ♥ puts declarer in dummy, a trick ahead.

In fact, if declarer is Jxxx AQxxx K Axx he makes unless you defend as indicated.

BTW, the bidding looks weird to me: East ought to bid 4♥ early while West almost certainly has a hand on which he has a good expectation of beating 3N, with little chance of making 4♥ opposite a 3♥ bid, unless he has seen East bid before ..... All constructions I cam up with had West with a ♣ guard or North with 6+♣, neither really making a lot of sense on the auction.

[nielsfoged]

Apollo81, on Oct 3 2006, 03:13 PM, said:

If I am reading the auction right...

Declarer has 4513 shape or something close.  He may need to ruff four black cards in dummy or potentially 3-4 diamonds in his hand.

Rise ♥K and plan to lead another trump when I am in.  If/when I am in after that I will try to force dummy using the clubs.  Hop dA if led from dummy to guard against stiff K.  If partner's count indicates a 3-card diamond holding then may need to cash black tricks to prevent declarer discarding all of his clubs/spades (depending on his shape)

Best I can give only knowing play from dummy.

-Noble

You are close, but I am sure you can do a little better

[nielsfoged]

mikeh, on Oct 3 2006, 04:10 PM, said:

I will play a low trump at trick one. This may be critical.

If he plays a ♦ from dummy, rise with the A and watch partner's card: if he shows an odd number, cash out In case declarer has an unlikely KQ tight in ♦.

An even number, exit the (carefully preserved) trump K. Note that had you played the K at trick 1 and declarer exits the ♦K, you win and a low ♥ puts declarer in dummy, a trick ahead.

In fact, if declarer is Jxxx AQxxx K Axx he makes unless you defend as indicated.

BTW, the bidding looks weird to me: East ought to bid 4♥ early while West almost certainly has a hand on which he has a good expectation of beating 3N, with little chance of making 4♥ opposite a 3♥ bid, unless he has seen East bid before ..... All constructions I cam up with had West with a ♣ guard or North with 6+♣, neither really making a lot of sense on the auction.

100% correct, mikeh, that is the clue:
No matter how indifferent it may look, don't use that dead ♥K in trick 1.

The board was played in live bridge (not on the net), and as far as I (South) noticed, the bidding went smooth all the way, so I was not even near to calling the TD. However, you are right mikeh, the 4♥ bid from West was much more succesful than obvious, all white.