[sceptic]

Scoring: IMP

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West North East South

 -     -     -     Pass
 1♠    Pass  3♠    Pass
 4♠    Pass  Pass  Pass
 

Playing 2/1 and reverse bergen

what do you think of this bidding

how would you bid it

[uday]

Assuming 3S is preemptive, bidding seems perfectly fine.

Sure, its a lousy game as the cards lie but flip the NS hands and you have decent play for it, sort of. Isnt the bergen philosophy 'no hand is too weak to preempt?'

I'm sure I'd open 2N and play it there.

[HeartA]

I don't play bergen, so the bidding will probably die at 1S (if opps were not very aggressive).
Even play Bergen, I don't like the 3S bidding by East, the hand is too flat. I can live with it though.

[keylime]

I'd pass out 1S - whenever I'm forced to play Bergen, at equal colors my pre raises normally have shortage. Even fav here, nothing excites me.

[paulg]

I also prefer a 2NT opening bid. However, given you have opened 1♠, East's action is automatic playing Bergen (else why play it) and West's raise is a reasonable action.

Paul

[whereagles]

If you're going trot out a bergen 3♠, you better have the right shape for it, and this ain't it

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

3S is hyper agressive, I
would simply pass.

The raise to 4S is normal,
at least if you expect that
a 3S bid a bit more than the
actual hand.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Wackojack]

Your partner didn't open 2NT because he can't add up to 20.

[1eyedjack]

I dislike opening balanced 20 counts at 2NT. I stretch to respond on a 5 count, so I do not expect to miss game by opening 1S. If I don't get another chance to bid I would rather be in 1S than 2N. If I do, then I hope that opening 1S will normally result in a more accurate auction.

Even playing Bergen, I would expect a fairly narrow limit to a preemptive 3S raise opposite an unlimited opener who has no room to make a game try, and this hand falls below the horizon, for me.

[inquiry]

When you jump with one point, this stuff sometimes happens. Systemically you did fine playing a Bergen-style LOTT-based preemptive raise. If vul, I would pass instead of raise, even playing that style. At this vul, I would bid 3S also. Fits often show up with a lot of tricks that are hard to predict, this time, you failed short. In the long run, you hope this strategy works out.

[SoTired]

Some East's will bid 3S, some will pass. Non-vul, I think 3S is right.

West should pass. When making a decision like this, picture a min hand partner could have that works. There is none. Even a good hand for East, like Axxx xxx xxx xxx and 4S is near hopeless. Especially considering that East has few entries and West will be on lead mostly.

[bid_em_up]

At favorable, I would bid 3♠.

I think I would pass 3♠ with the West hand. Yes, I have a big hand, unfortunately 3♠ should be less than 6 count, telling me game is unlikely. Dummy is not likely to have the entries necessary to lead towards the KQ♣ (twice) and take the heart finesse, and lead towards the diamonds. A trump lead would kill this hand.