[Miron]

Scoring: IMP

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1♥ - x - 2♣ - 2♠
pass - pass - ?

1♥ = (11)12-21, 5+♥
2♣ = 5-9(11), 5+♣, NF (10-11 when unsuitable for xx)
1♥ - x - 2♣ - 2♠ - pass = max 2♣ (or very weak hand)

The opps are about the same quality as you are (they usually know what they're bidding and play and defend without costly errors).

Would you balance? If you can, give some reasons for doing so.

[mike777]

ya 2nt. minors.

bidders game I am told, sounds like the opp are in an eight card fit at the two level

If partner is 3=5=3=2 I may be in trouble.

[mikeh]

mike777, on Sep 28 2006, 05:15 PM, said:

ya 2nt. minors.

bidders game I am told, sounds like the opp are in an eight card fit at the two level

And we are about to be in a 7 card fit at the 3-level. Sure, we are not vul., but if they can make 8 tricks, with a LOTT of 15, we are down 2. I am not a huge fan of LOTT, but it has its uses.

Down 1 or 2 is either win 2 or push against their 110, but down 2 doubled is lose 5.

And maybe they go down here: why can't we have 6 tricks? I'd bet against it, but I wouldn't be shocked to see that bidding turns a small plus into a small minus, and the upside just isn't there on this hand.

[pclayton]

I'll try to win the match on another board.

We have no real fit; even if we get to a 4-4 (and there is ZERO guarantee of that) diamond fit, they rate to be poorly placed.

I will look forward to the opening lead. Either a club or a heart looks to help.

[the hog]

Pass. This is not the board on which to balance. Ds are poor as well.

[BudH]

I'm surprised there has been no comment on the 2♣ bid by responder.

Shouldn't a 2♣ bid by South (responder) look more like that below? Personally, I would pass with the posted 2=2=4=5 responder's hand on the first round.

With only a three-card difference between the club and heart lengths, I'd raise to 2♥ on the doubleton ace before I would bid clubs immediately. (Assuming a 5-card major system.)

Bud H

Scoring: IMP

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[whereagles]

Yeah, pass. This is IMPS... you don't want to risk 2 down, possibly doubled, against a partscore.

As for what 2♣ should show, yes, it should be more like 6 good clubs, but 2♣ on the actual hand is ok. It puts pard on the pic, should he have some clubs to support you. 1NT would be ok too.

[Miron]

2♣ are OK in our methods, it is first step to fight for part score.
We will find 5-3 fit for clubs if it's there. 5 clubs comes more often then 6 clubs and partner is aware of weak hand with 5 clubs...

[inquiry]

Sometimes you just got to pass.. this is one of those times.

[Al_U_Card]

Miron, on Sep 29 2006, 06:10 AM, said:

2♣ are OK in our methods, it is first step to fight for part score.
We will find 5-3 fit for clubs if it's there. 5 clubs comes more often then 6 clubs and partner is aware of weak hand with 5 clubs...

You said it all. Pard knows your methods, is aware you could have as much as you do, and he chose to PASS. You should do likewise.

[Miron]

Well, I was the 1♥. Opps went after reopen to 4♠ doubled +1.

I should not double, but I was not sure about the reopen.
This is no assign the blame, I just wasn't sure if it was pity or it shouldn't be reopened.

As a result of this thread it should be passed out.

[MFA]

A reopening double is fine.
Adequate support for all suits. I don't understand 2NT=minors, since hearts could easily be our best strain. 2♠X is also possible, although partner needs very solid defense to pass.

Unlucky that they bid and made 4♠. Good opponents don't need help to bid their vul games, so this outcome really isn't an issue when deciding whether or not to balance.

[mike777]

ok I am convinced. no shape,no hcp pass was best

[FrancesHinden]

At MPs you might want to act, but pass at IMPs seems completely clear.

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The opps are about the same quality as you are (they usually know what they're bidding and play and defend without costly errors).

What was this, the Bermuda Bowl final?
I haven't seen any match (up to and including the BB final) that doesn't have a few costly errors in it.

[Walddk]

2♣ = 5-9(11), 5+♣, NF (10-11 when unsuitable for xx), you wrote. What do I have that I haven't already shown?

Roland

[Miron]

FrancesHinden, on Oct 5 2006, 07:30 AM, said:

At MPs you might want to act, but pass at IMPs seems completely clear.

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The opps are about the same quality as you are (they usually know what they're bidding and play and defend without costly errors).

What was this, the Bermuda Bowl final?
I haven't seen any match (up to and including the BB final) that doesn't have a few costly errors in it.

Bah, just an ordinary weak tourney in Praque.
We don't like those high event of vague quality.