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#1 User is offline   mike777 

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Posted 2006-August-18, 14:18

Scoring: IMP

1c=1h
1s=2d
3c=?


This is an old famous deal. In real life both pairs were playing a strong club system so the bidding was very different.

Assuming 2/1 bidding here what do you bid now?
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Posted 2006-August-18, 17:45

3NT
Partner can be 4-2-2-5. 2♦ GF 4sf followed by 3NT shows extra values, slam invite. Partner can go on if she has extras.
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Posted 2006-August-18, 18:03

4NT or 4C.
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Posted 2006-August-18, 18:35

3♦, but only if very established partnership.

3♣ should be 6-card. If not, partner will lose interest. 3♦, in any event, should be a cue in support of clubs, in case partner has 4126. I make no further moves that are not purely cooperative, though.
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Posted 2006-August-18, 18:44

plaur, on Aug 19 2006, 01:45 AM, said:

3NT
Partner can be 4-2-2-5. 2♦ GF 4sf followed by 3NT shows extra values, slam invite. Partner can go on if she has extras.

So what do you do with 5 hearts and 13 points? Can you not play 3N after 4th suit GF anymore, or can you not try to find a 5-3 heart fit after 1C-1H-1S?
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Posted 2006-August-19, 12:05

I suspect pard has extras, but I don't have anyway to ask for that without messing up the bidding. 3NT thus.
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Posted 2006-August-19, 16:47

3NT, wtp?
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Posted 2006-August-20, 21:49

4NT (natural)
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Posted 2006-August-21, 11:33

QJ8.....AJ965....K82....AQ
AKT9....void....A97....J98632

Garozzo and Belladonna bid to 7clubs making
Wolff and Hamman bid 6NT

Eddie Kantar writes often about this hand where he did not play the K of clubs on the first round of clubs.
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Posted 2006-August-21, 12:41

hum.. I gotta get a bit more aggressive. It's the 3rd slam I miss in a row in these BBO forum problems.. lol.
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Posted 2006-August-21, 15:39

3D. This is a punt. It shows something in diamonds (but may just be 3 small), but that you are not sure that 3N is the right spot. If partner bids 3N you actually like your hand a lot, since the D K is now working, and partner is 4126 shape. Opposite a minimum hand like AKxx x Qx Kxxxxx you can make 6C. So over 3N you should bid 4C next, and push a lot in the direction of slam. If partner bids 3H, your values are a bit less certain. I would bid 4C over that as well, but not try as hard (4C and then 5C over 4S but a more agressive bid over 4H).
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Posted 2006-August-22, 04:01

Italy were quite a long way behind before this set, if I remember, and 7C was bid based on trying to make up ground.

6NT is hardly a contract of beauty, either.
6C, on the other hand....
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