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What does this double mean? Another hand from Brighton

#1 User is offline   Wackojack 

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Posted 2006-August-19, 06:36

Scoring: MP

After 3 passes, although you normally open with a minimum of 12 balanced, you decide to open 1♣. LHO the overcalls 1♦, partner doubles, RHO bids 2♦, you bid 2♥, LHO pushes to 3♦ and partner doubles. Pass to you.

p p p 1♣
1♦dble2♦2♥
3♦dble p ?

Any comments about the bidding so far?
What do you think the double should mean?
What would you bid next?
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Posted 2006-August-19, 06:49

Although partnership agreement is key, I'd expect 4324 and about 11 HCP's. A plausible example might be Kxxx-Axx-xx-Axxx. Probably primed, unless primes justify 11-count openings in second seat.

As to what to do, I dislike my options and forced guess. But, this problem was in part necessitated by my need to open this mess in fourth seat. I think I'll try for +140 rather than +300, but passing might be the sole option for a plus score.
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Posted 2006-August-19, 07:53

The first x promised 44 in the majors. Responder cannot be 43 in the majors.

The second x is for penalty, partner heard you open 1club in 4th seat and make a free bid of 2H. You got what you promised and 2 small trumps(D).
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Posted 2006-August-19, 08:27

Promises, promises. I suppose I am too fond of Mr. Moyse's ideas and accordingly sometimes view 4-3 in the majors, with relative shortness in diamonds, as 4-4, unless the later auction dictates otherwise. ;-)
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Posted 2006-August-19, 12:06

hum.. this auction is a good reason why I should have bid 2♠ the round before, since I could bid 3♥ now. As it is, I gotta guess something, and I guess 3♥.
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Posted 2006-August-19, 13:05

kenrexford, on Aug 19 2006, 09:27 AM, said:

Promises, promises. I suppose I am too fond of Mr. Moyse's ideas and accordingly sometimes view 4-3 in the majors, with relative shortness in diamonds, as 4-4, unless the later auction dictates otherwise. ;-)

I don't like the "promise" dbl shows 4-4 majors. If so, the dble would be not too much useful.

As the opener with 4-4 majors, I would have dbled over 2D. And I agree that 2S is better than 2H: S were better and you could bid H later if necessary.
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Posted 2006-August-19, 15:16

The first double usually shows 4-4 majors.
The second double show max hand for passed hand and pretty balanced, suggest leting them play.
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