awm, on Aug 2 2006, 03:33 PM, said:
My concern about showing the clubs on hand B is the following pair of hands:
xxx
AKxxxx
AQx
x
xxx
AKxxxx
Ax
Qx
On the first hand 6♥ is virtually cold and 7♥ has some play. However, partner will tend to down-evaluate this hand on hearing about my clubs. After all, he has a singleton opposite my "suit" and a wasted diamond queen.
On the second hand, 6♥ has virtually no play on a (not unlikely) diamond lead. However, partner will be excited on hearing about my clubs as his club queen is promoted and he has "all working cards."
Generally I don't like "fit-showing" bids on ace-empty.
Your first hand is unlikely... you are giving the opps only 22 hcp for an auction that essentially forces to game, and of that 7 of their hcp are in their short suits, while the 3
♦ bidder, who will be light on values on this setup has a poor (altho maybe long) suit.
More importantly, no number of
♥ by you, below 6, is getting you to slam... is partner going to really upgrade that
♦ holding???? Or that
♠ holding?? So I wouldn't worry about missing slam on the first hand.
On the second, you have been clever (not in a devious sense... astute might be a better word) with your
♣ holding, but even here you need a
♦ lead to give you a problem and the odds surely favour a
♠ lead? And, of course, you retain the somewhat optimistic assessment of partner's hcp. My example was based on a 10 count opposite, leaving the opps with holdings somewhat more likely in term of their bidding.
Finally, I was NOT intending 5
♣ as fit-showing.. I want to show a long suit and then I will depend on the opps to allow me to show the
♥ suit...at the 5-level if possible but if it goes 5
♦ on my left and 5
♠ on my right, I am probably bidding 6
♥.
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