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5 or 6? How aggressive do you feel
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Posted 2006-July-26, 03:37
Matchpoints, love all, LH opponent opens.
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Posted 2006-July-26, 04:51
i voted 6, but at matchpoints 5 might be better
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Posted 2006-July-26, 04:55
I think 6♦ .. push them to the final guess and only let them have one chance. They seem likely to bid over 5♦ and will have a better idea what to do over 6♦ than I do over 5♠.
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Posted 2006-July-26, 05:14
Hi,
5D.
You need 2 cards to make 6D,
but most likely partner wont
have those cards.
And 5S is not making, ... in other words
I know what to do over 5S.
With kind regards
Marlowe
5D.
You need 2 cards to make 6D,
but most likely partner wont
have those cards.
And 5S is not making, ... in other words
I know what to do over 5S.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2006-July-26, 05:50
5 for me. But 66.7% voted for 6 so far. How many will bid 6D in a money tour? maybe 95%
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Posted 2006-July-26, 05:58
6♦. Let them make the final (wrong hopefully) guess, and if you are left to play there, as little as ♦xx (not 32!) and ♣J10 may be enough.
Roland
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Posted 2006-July-26, 06:33
6♦ seems fair. I got 11 tricks in most layouts and a fairly good shot at a 12th.
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Posted 2006-July-26, 08:24
Walddk, on Jul 26 2006, 06:58 AM, said:
6♦. Let them make the final (wrong hopefully) guess, and if you are left to play there, as little as ♦xx (not 32!) and ♣J10 may be enough.
Roland
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ditto
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Posted 2006-July-26, 09:44
6♦
Even when it's not making some of the time the opponents are going to save in 6♠ which they presumably think will be cheap.
Even when it's not making some of the time the opponents are going to save in 6♠ which they presumably think will be cheap.
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Posted 2006-July-26, 09:51
Its funny how different cliches can apply. 
I think I'll 'stay fixed' with 5♦. I don't see why the opponents will take the push to 6♠ at equal colors, especially after they've pushed us to an uncomfortable level. While I have boundless respect for the opinions of Roland and Mike, I think they are really hoping for the opponents to rescue them from 6♦ with a phantom.
Assuming we have a spade loser, we are playing pard for a very specific card to make 12 tricks.
I'll take the $, thank you.
I think I'll 'stay fixed' with 5♦. I don't see why the opponents will take the push to 6♠ at equal colors, especially after they've pushed us to an uncomfortable level. While I have boundless respect for the opinions of Roland and Mike, I think they are really hoping for the opponents to rescue them from 6♦ with a phantom.
Assuming we have a spade loser, we are playing pard for a very specific card to make 12 tricks.
I'll take the $, thank you.
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Posted 2006-July-26, 09:59
pclayton, on Jul 26 2006, 05:51 PM, said:
Assuming we have a spade loser, we are playing pard for a very specific card to make 12 tricks.
I also assume we have a spade loser, but I don't think it's extremely unreasonable if we find partner with something like
♠ xx
♥ Jxx
♦ xx
♣ Jxxxxx
Even with as little as that, 6♦ has play.
Roland
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Posted 2006-July-26, 12:26
If 6 works out ok, this probably wouldn't be asked... 5♦ 
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Posted 2006-July-26, 12:48
Can I bid 5 1/2 D ?
OK since I can't, I'll just bid 6D on this freak hand and avoid the unpleasant decision of what to do over 5S if I bid 5D now.
OK since I can't, I'll just bid 6D on this freak hand and avoid the unpleasant decision of what to do over 5S if I bid 5D now.
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Posted 2006-July-27, 01:38
A huge vote in favour of bidding 6♦. My partner held the hand, and bid 6♦. He said afterwards he couldn't decide (at matchpoints) whether to bid 5 or 6, but he'd never jumped to slam in this auction before, so this seemed a good opportunity.
The readers here are a lot more aggressive than the average English club player (OK, I might have guessed that). From the frequencies I deduce that about 560 pairs overcalled 5D and either played there or defended 5Sx, and about 440 pairs overcalled 6D and played there. There are quite a few more results that aren't clear.
The winning action is 5♦, as partner's hand is not entirely suitable:
x
109xxxx
x
Jxxxx
Even opposite that pile of dross 6D has play (which implies it is indeed the correct call), but you have to lose a spade and a diamond.
Brian Senior, who wrote the commentary, didn't even mention the possibility of overcalling 6. But then he definitely wrote the commentary in a bit of a hurry, as some glaring mis-analysis on other boards shows.
Full details are at http://www.simpairs....?session=003996 (board 1)
The readers here are a lot more aggressive than the average English club player (OK, I might have guessed that). From the frequencies I deduce that about 560 pairs overcalled 5D and either played there or defended 5Sx, and about 440 pairs overcalled 6D and played there. There are quite a few more results that aren't clear.
The winning action is 5♦, as partner's hand is not entirely suitable:
x
109xxxx
x
Jxxxx
Even opposite that pile of dross 6D has play (which implies it is indeed the correct call), but you have to lose a spade and a diamond.
Brian Senior, who wrote the commentary, didn't even mention the possibility of overcalling 6. But then he definitely wrote the commentary in a bit of a hurry, as some glaring mis-analysis on other boards shows.
Full details are at http://www.simpairs....?session=003996 (board 1)
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