[Miron]

Scoring: IMP

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The bidding goes:
1♦ - pass - 1♥ - pass

Here is your first problem.
1♠ - pass - 4♠ - pass

What now?
4NT - pass - 5♥ - pass

And now?
7♥

How to bid this properly after 1♦. Would you open 2♣?

[whereagles]

Huh..? Is the problem right? Why didn't responder bid the ♠Q? If he did, 7NT obviously follows. Else 6NT.

[mcphee]

Am I seeing the problem correctly? With 9 1/2 playing tricks and a hand many would open 2C the 1D opening bidding made a NF bid of 1S over 1H?

[Miron]

mcphee, on Jul 13 2006, 07:20 PM, said:

Am I seeing the problem correctly? With 9 1/2 playing tricks and a hand many would open 2C the 1D opening bidding made a NF bid of 1S over 1H?

Yup, it was indivual and noone ever passed 1 over 1 over 1 in individual...

[Miron]

whereagles, on Jul 13 2006, 07:12 PM, said:

Huh..? Is the problem right? Why didn't responder bid the ♠Q? If he did, 7NT obviously follows. Else 6NT.

But 7NT is laydown...

[whereagles]

Miron, on Jul 13 2006, 06:22 PM, said:

whereagles, on Jul 13 2006, 07:12 PM, said:

Huh..? Is the problem right? Why didn't responder bid the ♠Q? If he did, 7NT obviously follows. Else 6NT.

But 7NT is laydown...

Well, that's the point. If responder shows the queen, 7 is a no-brainer. If he doesn't show it (misclick, I guess), then one can still try a shot at 7 hoping for a guess of the queen or a major suit squeeze.

[kenberg]

Hey, we have been told that it's an individual. 5H shows two aces and says nothing about the Q of anything. There is no way to find out about the Q. So if the question is how to bid 7NT confidently in an individual, the answer is you can't.

In a more defined partnership I guess you can find out by first setting the trump suit in your 4-3 fit, as happened, and then bid rkc. For too many reasons to write down, I wouldn't think this is a good idea.

Assuming that, until you learn of the ace of clubs, you envision playing this in a suit rather than in NT, I think that starting with 2C is right. In an individual, partner's response to this can only be guessed at. Playing controls, as I sometimes do, you find the two aces early on, but I still have no idea how to find out about the Q of spades or how to tell partner that that's all I need. There are some fairly complex methods in Kantar's book on RKC, but I don't know them.

If there is a way for either partner to bid 7NT, knowing what he is doing, I don't see it.

Fun hand tho.

Ken