[haver]

J,9,7,6,5
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9,8,7
A,J,9,5,3

Vuln. against not, partner deals and bids:

1H - dbl - ?

your turn -

[flytoox]

I will bid 1S.

[pbleighton]

1S. Anything else is "too clever by half", IMHO.

Peter

[Free]

1S, 2C or RDbl comes in my mind. But for RDbl you're too weak. 2C is something nice (hoping they defend in S), but 1S on the other hand is a great psychic in such auctions when you don't have Spades but Hearts. Normally 2C promisses 10+ HCP, so I go for 1S.

[the hog]

1 S Is there really anything else?

[flytoox]

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1S, 2C or RDbl comes in my mind. But for RDbl you're too weak. 2C is something nice (hoping they defend in S), but 1S on the other hand is a great psychic in such auctions when you don't have Spades but Hearts. Normally 2C promisses 10+ HCP, so I go for 1S.

1s is not psychic bid at all. my 1s is serious.

[Free]

Yes, here it is, but it can be. So if ops have Spades, they'll still defend in Spades...

[flytoox]

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Yes, here it is, but it can be. So if ops have Spades, they'll still defend in Spades...

Free, better to bid what u have before considering psyhic bid. I assure you it will backfire more than fool opps.

[Free]

I'm just saying that your opponents shouldn't be intimidated if you skip Spades and bid 2C (subject of the post is "TRAP"). That's all. See my first post, it says "1S". And I do have Spades don't I? Jeez.

[flytoox]

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I'm just saying that your opponents shouldn't be intimidated if you skip Spades and bid 2C (subject of the post is "TRAP"). That's all. See my first post, it says "1S". And I do have Spades don't I? Jeez.

Sure, I saw ur 1st post. And I do agree with 1s bid. I am just saying psyhic too much may not be such a good idea. Will you psyhic here if your hand changes to
S: XXX
H: X
D: AJTXX
C: XXXXX
?
I am not sure what is the right time for psyhic bid, coz i am just a novice. Perhaps Ben or other expert here can give me a guideline. But i think you may consider psyhic bid only if the following two conditions are satisfied:
1. you are sure ur opp will bid a game if u dont take action.
2. you have some where to run if you are caught by opp's dbl, which implies you should have fit with pd or u hide another long suit to run if necessary.

So after pd opened and i have about 5 HCP without fit for pd, i will never psyhic.

In a word, every bid we choose has a purpose. Dont psyche purely for psyh.

[inquiry]

I believe the trap issue here is rather or not to bid at all. The danger with PASS with this hand is that the bidding might go 1H-X-P-P-P. With a void that will not be a happy contract.

The problem with bidding 1S, is they might TAKE it as a psych and start doubling, and 1S is forcing, and it might get your partner to rebid his suit and now you play 2Hx, instead of one.

With many of my partners, we play transfers from 1NT to suit opened minus one. So after 1H-X, all these bids are transfers: 1NT, 2C, 2D. Partner doesn't have to complete the transfer, but unless I am transferring to partners suit, the implication is that I lack support for his suit. So with this hand, I would bid 1NT (transfer to 2C). If partner bids 2C, fine, we play there. If partner bids 2D, he shows good red hand, and I don't mind playing in diamonds, so I pass that. If he rebids 2H despite my suggesting no heart fit, well then he is on his own.

As an added plus, West might double the 1NT and if partner passes, East might bid. And the fact that I didn't introduce this anemic spade suit, they might end up in spades.

As for the issue of bidding 1S over the double without spades, this is the most overused psych in the world of bridge. It is used so much that it is seldom effective except against inexperienced players, and using it frequently gets the opponents into a penalty double cycle. And without a heart fit, the last thing you want to do is make it easy for them to make penalty doubles. Assuming WEST has a lot of hearts, they will have trouble doubling your 2C bid (as a double by WEST is likley responsive), so either 2C or my transfer 1NT has a chance to escape.

Ben

[Free]

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Sure, I saw ur 1st post. And I do agree with 1s bid. I am just saying psyhic too much may not be such a good idea. Will you psyhic here if your hand changes to
S: XXX
H: X
D: AJTXX
C: XXXXX
?
I am not sure what is the right time for psyhic bid, coz i am just a novice. Perhaps Ben or other expert here can give me a guideline. But i think you may consider psyhic bid only if the following two conditions are satisfied:
1. you are sure ur opp will bid a game if u dont take action.
2. you have some where to run if you are caught by opp's dbl, which implies you should have fit with pd or u hide another long suit to run if necessary.

So after pd opened and i have about 5 HCP without fit for pd, i will never psyhic.

In a word, every bid we choose has a purpose. Dont psyche purely for psyh.

Aparently you don't know exactly when to psych this 1S bid. An example hand is

xx
KQ9xxx
xxxx
x

Or with a Jack or Queen extra. Here you will play 4H, but you want to keep them from 4S...

[flytoox]

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Aparently you don't know exactly when to psych this 1S bid. An example hand is

xx
KQ9xxx
xxxx
x

Or with a Jack or Queen extra. Here you will play 4H, but you want to keep them from 4S...

it would be great if everything goes as u wish. Just want to remind you you need pd to understand ur bid to succeed. Still remember your 1N psych which no body except yourself understand?

[Free]

yeah, what else would partner bid if my next bid is 4H??? If you don't get it by then, you should put "I just learned how to hold 13 cards in my hand" in your skill level.

[luke warm]

i honestly think ben's xfers here solve the problem, and he's correct that you might end up defending a spade contract (which isn't a bad thing)

[Free]

Here indeed, defending 4S is not a bad thing

[flytoox]

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yeah, what else would partner bid if my next bid is 4H??? If you don't get it by then, you should put "I just learned how to hold 13 cards in my hand" in your skill level.

Have you read Reese's Miracles of card play? Many novice play much better than those claimed expert.

[Free]

whatever...

[luke warm]

we've all psyched with a fit for pard and short spades, which is why 1H (P) 1S (2S) is considered natural..

[the hog]

Free, if you are suggesting that you should by pass a 1S bid in the hope that the opps play there, you are playing pretty poor opps. If, as I understand, you plan to raise H, (to the 4 level??), I would suggest you are more likely to get doubled than persuade quality opps to play in a non fit.