[ochinko]

East deals, and opens with a pass, you are South. The bidding goes:

(P) - 1♣ - (Dbl) - Rdbl
(1♦) - P - (P) - 1♥
(P) - ?

Are you in a forced position or not? And if you don't feel that you are, do you still bid with:

AK6
KQ
9763
J1085

[Walddk]

Yes, it's forcing when preceded by a redouble. I will bid 1NT now and show my hand type. It does not promise a diamond stopper, merely a description of my pattern.

Partner can bid 2♦ now if he wants more info. Then I will bid 2♥.

Roland

[reisig]

forcing or not ...bid 1NT...then win the postem! What else matters?

[Double !]

yes, it should be forcing.

DHL

[pclayton]

forcing buph.

Which always makes me wonder what a 2♥ call means in the same sequence.

[Gerben42]

100% forcing. I will bid 1NT now. Note that opening 1♦ would have avoided this and many other problems. I guess 2♥ in this position would have to show a fit jump.

[luke warm]

well there are a lot of excellent players who say it's forcing, so i feel quite alone here... i don't think it can be forcing, since the xx showed 10+ (normally)... it's quite possible that n/s have a half ass heart fit and a combined 22 count... if north wanted to force, 2d was available... but with roland, phil, richie, et al, saying it's forcing, that pretty much settles it

[SoTired]

after a XX a new suit is forcing - period. come on. do u have to q-bid or jump around just to get your partner not to drop you at the one level?

[HeartA]

forcing for sure.

[jikl]

Forcing and I bid 1NT

Sean

[neilkaz]

Forcing and I bid 1NT to show my pattern and that doesn't guarantee a stopper on an auction like this where I may be stuck for a bid and min.

[cherdano]

luke warm, on Jul 13 2006, 01:29 AM, said:

well there are a lot of excellent players who say it's forcing, so i feel quite alone here... i don't think it can be forcing, since the xx showed 10+ (normally)... it's quite possible that n/s have a half ass heart fit and a combined 22 count... if north wanted to force, 2d was available... but with roland, phil, richie, et al, saying it's forcing, that pretty much settles it

Jimmy, I think you misread the auction.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

yes 1H is forcing, and so would
a direct 1H.
In the seq. in question, I would
not say, that 1H is game forcing,
but it is forcing.

My bid: 2D, no clear direction.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[whereagles]

Walddk, on Jul 12 2006, 10:19 PM, said:

I will bid 1NT now and show my hand type. It does not promise a diamond stopper, merely a description of my pattern.

this comes from Roland?

*shock* *awe* *faint*

[luke warm]

cherdano, on Jul 13 2006, 02:25 AM, said:

luke warm, on Jul 13 2006, 01:29 AM, said:

well there are a lot of excellent players who say it's forcing, so i feel quite alone here... i don't think it can be forcing, since the xx showed 10+ (normally)... it's quite possible that n/s have a half ass heart fit and a combined 22 count... if north wanted to force, 2d was available... but with roland, phil, richie, et al, saying it's forcing, that pretty much settles it

Jimmy, I think you misread the auction.

maybe i did, but i've always felt that a redouble shows 10+ and tends to deny a fit for partner's suit... it sets up a focing pass auction, forcing until they are doubled or we play the hand...

(p) 1C (x) xx
(1D) p* (p) 1H**

*=i can't double 1D, what do you want to do?
**=i can't (or don't want to) x 1D either, i have no spade support to speak of, but i do have 4+ hearts and 10-12 hcp

in any case, why would 1H be forcing there? give opener

AQJx xxx x KQxxx ... what should he bid? anyway, because of the preponderence of 'forcing' thoughts, from now on i'll play the bid as forcing

[Codo]

I have the agreement, that XX is forcing bis 2 NT, so 1 ♥ is forcing. But even without ANY agreement, I would still play it as forcing.
I had opened 1 Diamond with the North hand and rebid 2 Club now.
In the given case, I had bid 2 ♦ asking for a stopper.

[Free]

Absolute forcing, bid 1NT.

[Walddk]

whereagles, on Jul 13 2006, 09:50 AM, said:

Walddk, on Jul 12 2006, 10:19 PM, said:

I will bid 1NT now and show my hand type. It does not promise a diamond stopper, merely a description of my pattern.

this comes from Roland?

*shock* *awe* *faint*

Nothing sensational about that. As long as there is room for partner to find out if NT is the right spot, I don't have a problem. What I do not do, however, and what you seem to have misinterpreted, is to jump to 3NT indiscriminately without having a suit covered.

Axx
xxx
AQJx
Qxx

1♦ (1♠) dble pass
1NT

That's fine with me because partner, below game, can find out if I am serious about NT. I merely show my pattern, and that's balanced.

However, with the following hand I do not jump to 3NT:

K
AQ1054
J94
KJ83


1♥ - 1♠
2♣ - 2♦

I have a feeling that you might punt 3NT. I don't; I bid 3♦.

Roland

[willow23]

100% forcing...I play redbl as 10+ hcp ..so this would establish the balance of power...

In response to the 1♥...I would bid based on the strength og my hand while painting a picture of the hand ..1NT if balanced or a suit if you have one is a winner.

Partner has yet to describe his/her hand...That bid should tell the story...

[whereagles]

Walddk, on Jul 14 2006, 06:27 PM, said:

However, with the following hand I do not jump to 3NT:

K
AQ1054
J94
KJ83


1♥ - 1♠
2♣ - 2♦

I have a feeling that you might punt 3NT. I don't; I bid 3♦.

Actually, the textbook bid is 3♦. With a pet pard I'd certainly try that most of the time. However, with a not-so-hot pard 3NT sure has a couple of priceless virtues.......