[awm]

Scoring: IMP

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All nonvulnerable at IMPs, your RHO bids 1NT (15-17 balanced). Playing whatever methods you prefer, what's your call?

Assuming you double or bid at the two-level, LHO bids 5♦ next. This passes around to you. Now what?

[mike777]

2H

5H now..in for a penny in for a pound.

[pclayton]

4♥. 4♣ as a strong 4♥ call would be a nice gadget.

Usually I get to decide what to do over 4♠ in this situation, not 5♦. But having overbid my hand already and gotten it off my chest I pass.

[hrothgar]

I'd start with a 2♥ overcall, showing a single suited hand with hearts.
I could bid 2♣ showing 4+ Clubs and 4+ Hearts, however, I consider the suit disparity too great.

I'm torn between pass and double on the second round of the auction.
I suspect that LHO is sitting on a Heart void, so I'm leaning towards passing.

[lowerline]

awm, on Jul 10 2006, 04:35 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

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All nonvulnerable at IMPs, your RHO bids 1NT (15-17 balanced). Playing whatever methods you prefer, what's your call?

Assuming you double or bid at the two-level, LHO bids 5♦ next. This passes around to you. Now what?

2♦ Suction (showing onesuiter in hearts or black twosuiter). Double next. Partner can bid 5♥ P/C if he wants.

[whereagles]

After 1NT by RHO: pass and get ready to cash 7-8 tricks if 1NT gets passed out.

After LHO spoils the party with 5♦: double. I think there's a good chance this goes down

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

I would pass.

Do I expect to make 4H opposite
a broke partner?
No, hence I will go quitely.

If thy try to sign off in 3D, I will
bid 3H.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Echognome]

I would have bid 2♥ at the table. I pass 5♦. Horrible problem, but I let them make the last guess and hope it's wrong.

[whereagles]

Echognome, on Jul 11 2006, 11:45 AM, said:

I would have bid 2♥ at the table. I pass 5♦. Horrible problem, but I let them make the last guess and hope it's wrong.

They're not guessing anything! They bid 5♦ freewillingly.

[Echognome]

whereagles, on Jul 11 2006, 12:01 PM, said:

Echognome, on Jul 11 2006, 11:45 AM, said:

I would have bid 2♥ at the table.  I pass 5♦.  Horrible problem, but I let them make the last guess and hope it's wrong.

They're not guessing anything! They bid 5♦ freewillingly.

They're guessing 5♦ is better than 3NT, for example.

Of course, 5♦ could be anything from a guess for the best game to a preempt. Who knows, other than LHO has a whole lot of diamonds.

[Apollo81]

awm, on Jul 10 2006, 04:35 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

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All nonvulnerable at IMPs, your RHO bids 1NT (15-17 balanced). Playing whatever methods you prefer, what's your call?

Assuming you double or bid at the two-level, LHO bids 5♦ next. This passes around to you. Now what?

Playing Meyerson over 1NT, I would probably bid 2♥ (natural) and then double 5♦. Hopefully partner can tell by his own hand I am void and make the most intelligent call.

I'm also pretty tempted to double 1NT planning to follow with 3♥ playing these methods. That might be better than bidding 2♥ directly. Of course it doesn't help in this situation

-Noble

[Free]

This reminds me of a hand I had a few weeks ago, but this one is weaker. I think I'd pass, and jump to 4♥ whenever partner comes alive.

The hand I had previously: AKQJTx-Kxx-void-AJ98 (partner held 9-JTxx-xxxxx-QTx). I passed, partner intervened 2♦ (he already passed, so didn't think I'd go heavy on him) and I bid 4♠. Everybody laughed, but in the end I made my contract tnx to the key card: ♠9! This made it possible for me to finesse ♣.

This hand may be a lot better to bid 2♥ with, since I don't have a completely solid suit. Still, I like pass.

[awm]

Scoring: IMP

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I've no idea what the "technically correct" call is, if any. At the table I started with double (showing a major-minor two suiter, planning to jump in hearts at next turn). When 5♦ came around to me I bid 5♥, which made for +450.

5♦X should be two down (300) on the actual hands.

At my teammates table, the east hand opened a strong club and the subsequent auction was quite different, ending in 3♥ by north/south making 5.

So in this case, passing 5♦ is lose 3, doubling 5♦ is win 3, and bidding 5♥ is win 6.

[mike777]

FTL
13-3-?=

13=given
-3=estimated combined 2 shortest suits in our hands
0=estimated 19-21 working hcp or
+1=estimated 22 working hcp.

The opp hands:
13-3-?=
13=given
-3=estimated combined 2 shortest suits in opp hands
-1=estimated 16-18 working hcp in opp hands
0=estimated 19-21 working hcp in opp hands.

My best guess is if we make only ten tricks they are down 1
if we make 11 tricks they are down 2.

[Double !]

I make whatever bid we agree shows hearts and then double 5D. If they make, oh well.


lol,
BTW
Was this was the hand involved in anotherthread that asked the question of what to bid holding xx, xx, QJT8th,x after 1C (strong, artif) - 1H - ?


DHL

[Apollo81]

awm, on Jul 11 2006, 04:37 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

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I've no idea what the "technically correct" call is, if any. At the table I started with double (showing a major-minor two suiter, planning to jump in hearts at next turn). When 5♦ came around to me I bid 5♥, which made for +450.

5♦X should be two down (300) on the actual hands.

At my teammates table, the east hand opened a strong club and the subsequent auction was quite different, ending in 3♥ by north/south making 5.

So in this case, passing 5♦ is lose 3, doubling 5♦ is win 3, and bidding 5♥ is win 6.

I think doubling 5♦ is better. When 5♥ is right its not a big difference; when 5♥ is wrong (switch ♣Q and ♥Q) it's huge.

-Noble

[awm]

Well my reasoning was something like the following:

At first turn, bidding 2♥ seems like an underbid. Partner will often pass on hands that produce game. Bidding 4♥ could be right, but starting with double seems to keep other contracts in the picture.

Having doubled at first turn, partner has very little knowledge of my hand. She doesn't know which major I have and will be ill equipped to pull a later double. So if I double 5♦, we're defending pretty much no matter what.

Do I think defending is right? Well it certainly seems likely that 5♦ is down. But if LHO has a heart void (not ridiculous on the auction) then they could make. Do I think 5♥ is making? Not necessarily. On the plus side, if partner has a decent hand including some diamond cards we might've heard a double. So either partner has a bad hand (in which case 5♦ could make if hearts aren't breaking and 5♥ is often a good sac) or partner has nothing in diamonds (in which case 5♥ will probably make). In any case bidding 5♥ is likely to just trade a small plus for a small minus if it's wrong, whereas it could be a double game swing if it's right.

Certainly if I had made the underbid of 2♥ at first turn, or had gambled out a 4♥ call, then doubling at second turn is much more appealing (because partner can pull when it's right).