[benlessard]

pass----1s----pass----- ???

Kx
Kx
AKQx
8xxxx


what is your bid what is your follow up.

[Walddk]

2♣*. Follow up depends on which system we play. 2/1, Sayc, Acol, Precision? (last two unlikely since this is the 2/1-Sayc forum) Let's assume 2/1:

1♠ - 2♣
2♦ - 3♦
...
2♥ - 2NT
...
2♠* - 3♠
...
2NT - 3NT
...
3♣ - 3♦

* I bid my longest suit first regardless of quality.
** shows 6+ in my world after a 2♣ response.

Roland

[SoTired]

Walddk, on Jul 11 2006, 03:35 AM, said:

1♠ - 2♣
2♦ - 3♦
...
2♥ - 2NT
...
2♠* - 3♠
...
2NT - 3NT
...
3♣ - 3♦

* I bid my longest suit first regardless of quality.
** shows 6+ in my world after a 2♣ response.

Roland

Same except for the 2nd one. I'd bid 3N showing 15-17.

[cherdano]

2N, natural forcing, if I have that available. (Well, for me 2♣ 3-way with many partners.) Otherwise, I would bid 2♦.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

2C.

Over 2S, I bid 3D, which shows 5-4,
I take it that 2S in this seq. does not
promise a 6 card.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Double !]

OMG
I am about to disagree with you all, but I currently feel strongly that one should respond 2 diamonds. If this hand belongs in clubs, partner will bid them. I believe in bidding where my values are located. If one responds 2C, in a close slam investigation, opener is likely to assume that some of your values are in your first bid suit. In addition, i now have no rebid problems should partner rebid 2H or 2S: I can either take a preference to spades or rebid a forcing 2NT despite my strong club stopper, and see what 3rd bid partner makes.

All of the above assumes that one is playing 2/1GF. If not playing 2/1 and if playing that an initial 2NT response is forcing, then I might select a different initial action.

DHL

[mcphee]

I think 2D is a better response, and while partner is never going to expect 5C in my hand that is ok.

There was a hand type quqite similar to this in the spingold finals one year. World champions at both tables bid the strong 4 card minor rather than the weak 5 card suit. Maybe these guys knew what they were doing, but it seems to me that concentrated values will be move useful knowledge to partner than a suit he would have to have great cards in before you would consider reaching for slam.

[mikeh]

This hand has sufficient goodies that we can picture a slam opposite many non-minimum hands.

However, we will have difficulty making slam in ♣ unless his hand is strong enough that he will at some point be able to bid ♣ naturally.

We will most definitely NOT want partner to get excited about Axxx in ♣, as he might well do after a 2♣ response.

Picture AQxxx Axx x Kxxx.... wouldn't we all get really happy if we opened 1♠ and heard 2♣?

We'd feel committed to ♣, and on a bad day even 5 is too much.

On the other hand, compare AQxxxx Ax Jxxx x after 2♣. We'd not like our hand very much and there is an argument for 2♠ rather than 2♦.

When you are considering a suit as trump for a high-level contract, suit quality counts and I agree 100% with 2♦

BTW, I believe that the sequence 1♠ 2♦ 3♣ shows extras so on that auction, I'd be willing to look into ♣ as a trump suit.. after all, for slam purposes the 5th card is worth the Q when partner announces a decent suit...

[mike777]

2c will rebid 3nt(showing 14-15 hcp) over a 3club, not promising or denying extras, bid by partner.

Partner will play me for 14-15 hcp and stoppers in h and D, less than 3s and therefore not great clubs.

[benlessard]

Next


partner bid 2h.


1s----2c----2h----???

over 2nt or 3d he will bid 3nt.

over 2s he will bid 3s.




1s----2d----2h---- ???

over 3clubs or 2nt or 2s he will bid 3d....now what ?

[mike777]

benlessard, on Jul 11 2006, 05:21 PM, said:

Next


partner bid 2h.


1s----2c----2h----???

over 2nt or 3d he will bid 3nt.

over 2s he will bid 3s.




1s----2d----2h---- ???

over 3clubs or 2nt or 2s he will bid 3d....now what ?

1s=2c
2h=2nt
3nt=p

seems like a typical everyday auction.
My partner knows I got 14-15/16 hcp, 2 spades and D stoppers. Balanced or semi-balanced hand

[Winstonm]

I am fortunate to be able to bid 2N naturally with this hand and here partner's natural continuations. Otherwise, this is the rare hand where I would bid 2D on the 4-card suit. First, as MikeH pointed out, I don't want partner to get excited about Axxx or KJxx if clubs; at the same time, I don't want to discourage him if he hold a small singleton club - which 2C is prone to do.

Winston

[Double !]

I stick with my original premise.

I initially responded 2 diamonds.
Over 2H I shall bid 2NT (forcing in 2/1)
over 3D I shall bid 3S.
I'm liking my initial 2D response more and more: starting to look like a 30 hcp deck for this hand.

Is partner now bidding 3NT?

DHL

[mike777]

Double !, on Jul 11 2006, 07:18 PM, said:

I stick with my original premise.

I initially responded 2 diamonds.
Over 2H I shall bid 2NT (forcing in 2/1)
over 3D I shall bid 3S.

Is partner now bidding 3NT? 

DHL

[Double !]

look again
post said that opener rebid 3D over 2S, 2NT, or 3C.

DHL

[Winstonm]

Double !, on Jul 11 2006, 07:18 PM, said:

I stick with my original premise.

I initially responded 2 diamonds.
Over 2H I shall bid 2NT (forcing in 2/1)
over 3D I shall bid 3S.
I'm liking my initial 2D response more and more: starting to look like a 30 hcp deck for this hand.

Is partner now bidding 3NT? 

DHL

I bid exactly the same way.

[pclayton]

2D for me too. I don't pard to be discouraged holding short clubs, but that's precisely what 2C rates to do.

Another rule: don't bid bad suits in a potential slam auction.

[keylime]

Not me. I wholeheartedly bid 2C to start. There's no reason to suppress any five card suit, even to the 8. Furthermore you're waiting to hear pard rebid 2♥ where you have a comfortable 3NT with the opps leading right into your AKQx. If pard makes some noise then you know that you need to slow bid this hand gently. Yes you hold five controls and 15 hcps, but the hand looks and feels like 3NT is the last plus score.

[adhoc3]

2D seems more nature to me. I'll be trembling of bidding 2C even it's a systematic choice. If I did, whenever we stop on 3NT, I'll have to pray for good thing happen in clubs.

[HeartA]

I usually respond the longest first, but not with this hand.