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#1 User is offline   michael_sun 

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Posted 2003-November-17, 19:13

The auction process as following:
1C-1H-1S-?
now you have more choices to respond to your partner's overcall, like double, cuebid 2C or 2S, what's the difference of these treatments among expert bridge players?
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Posted 2003-November-17, 20:39

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The auction process as following:
1C-1H-1S-?
now you have more choices to respond to your partner's overcall, like double, cuebid 2C or 2S, what's the difference of these treatments among expert bridge players?



  • DBL = snapdragon D's plus H tolerance (Hx)
  • 2C is sound three-card raise or better;
  • 2H preemptive 3-card raise;
  • 2S - sound 3-card with D fit-jump to the three level, promising the fourth suit
  • 2NT - high card, offensive raise to the three level with four (plus) trumps;
  • 3D - fit jump, with 4H+
  • 3H - preemptive;
  • 4H -preemptive;
  • 3S/4C = splinter
  • 4D = fit jump



If you want to read more about these bids, download the pdf version of the book by Robson/Segal's book, Partnership bidding at bridge. You can find it on Dan Neill's webpage at http://www.geocities...neill_2000/sys/
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Posted 2003-November-18, 07:42

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The auction process as following:
1C-1H-1S-?
now you have more choices to respond to your partner's overcall, like double, cuebid 2C or 2S, what's the difference of these treatments among expert bridge players?


I play that the only cuebid is the cuebid of "opener's" suit. So 2s in this particular situation shows a real spade suit. This is just to prevent funny 3 card bids and psyches from stealing our suit.

So I think 2c is an "unassuming" cuebid, showing a hand that wants to play game if the overcaller has something near an opening hand. After 2c overcaller must bid 2h if he overcalled light and responder can pass. Any other bid different than 2h puts the overcalling side in a game forcing situation.


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Posted 2003-November-18, 09:16

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The auction process as following:
1C-1H-1S-?
now you have more choices to respond to your partner's overcall, like double, cuebid 2C or 2S, what's the difference of these treatments among expert bridge players?


I play that the only cuebid is the cuebid of "opener's" suit. So 2s in this particular situation shows a real spade suit. This is just to prevent funny 3 card bids and psyches from stealing our suit.

So I think 2c is an "unassuming" cuebid, showing a hand that wants to play game if the overcaller has something near an opening hand. After 2c overcaller must bid 2h if he overcalled light and responder can pass. Any other bid different than 2h puts the overcalling side in a game forcing situation.


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there's a case to be made for 2S showing a suit, and it obviously does in (1c) p (1s) 2s, but i think most play the bid in the sequence above as the "2nd cuebid" and it tends to promise more than the "first cuebid"

in ben's sequences, most would play 4D as a splinter, since 3D is available as the fit jump when advancer can further show the hand later.. in general, fit jumps are shown at the level advancer (or responder) is forcing to, so 4D can be used effectively for that purpose
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Posted 2003-November-20, 22:11

I play in a similar way

DBL = snapdragon D's plus H tolerance (Hx)
2C is sound three-card raise or better;
2H - preemptive 3-card raise;
2S - GF in D plus H tolerance
2NT - high card, offensive raise to the three level with four (plus) trumps;
3D - preempitve;
3H - preemptive;
4H - preemptive;
3S/4C = splinter
4D = preemptive;
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Posted 2003-November-25, 19:41

Hi Michael!
There are several principles in complex competitive bidding. Most important of them is your bids will not show more strenght, but distribuition for possible game or sacrifice based on it . Showing possible psyche is not important, if your partner already bidded one of majors...
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