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Do you balance none vul at MPs? Jx QJ9xx Q10 Q9xx over 1D-1S;2S

#1 User is offline   kfgauss 

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Posted 2006-June-14, 15:50

None vul, MPs, you hold Jx QJ9xx Q10 Q9xx.

RHO deals:

1D P 1S P; 2S P P ?

What now? Pass, double, 2NT, 3H?

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Posted 2006-June-14, 16:14

kfgauss, on Jun 14 2006, 04:50 PM, said:

None vul, MPs, you hold Jx QJ9xx Q10 Q9xx.

RHO deals:

1D P 1S P; 2S P P ?

What now? Pass, double, 2NT, 3H?

Andy

I would have bid 1nt weakish takeout last round.

Hard to win at MP going minus 110.

More top players are playing 1nt as strong and natural in this position as responses get lighter and lighter.
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Posted 2006-June-14, 16:22

Pass on both rounds, this really is a heap of a rubbish even given the tempting form of scoring and vulnerability.
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Posted 2006-June-14, 16:22

Double.

Peter
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Posted 2006-June-14, 16:37

This hand is absolute drek. My pard during the 2nd final of the Denver BAM balanced on a nearly identical hand. I got to play 3H and went for 500.

The ODR on this hand is wretched. The opps probably have 8 trump, which makes it very easy to double us at the 3 level.

Unless I am playing against a pair too timid to double, or will always take the push, I pass.
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Posted 2006-June-15, 01:12

NOW it's too late, I had a chance to show my hand after 1 - p - 1...
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Posted 2006-June-15, 02:18

pass. this is a very bad hand for balancing. If they bid 2H and I hold spade suit, i might consider balancing. But with heart suit I will never balance
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Posted 2006-June-15, 09:10

Definitely pass. Even if I balance and they take the push, which is the best case scenario, they are extremely likely to make when my hand is such crap. So the upside is barely even existant, but the downside is huge.
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Posted 2006-June-15, 10:03

yes would have bid 1nt takeout at first chance
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Posted 2006-June-15, 10:14

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Do you balance none vul at MPs?, Jx QJ9xx Q10 Q9xx over 1D-1S;2S


No.
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Posted 2006-June-15, 10:22

Free, on Jun 15 2006, 02:12 AM, said:

NOW it's too late, I had a chance to show my hand after 1 - p - 1...

mike777, on Jun 14 2006, 05:14 PM, said:

I would have bid 1nt weakish takeout last round.

pigpenz, on Jun 15 2006, 11:03 AM, said:

yes would have bid 1nt takeout at first chance

Oy, disgusting! I always hated this convention, but if it starts being used on hands like this I will like it very much. When my opponents are playing it, that is.

Just because you can show a certain shape is no excuse to be bidding at all on hands with no offense of any kind.
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