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#1 User is offline   lenze 

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Posted 2003-October-31, 09:38

What’s the risk?

You hold

S – 8
H – QJT764
D – AKQT63
C – Void

Club Swiss team, 4 matches

Last match, for the coupon.

First board, no one VUL, you deal

You bid 1 Heart, LHO passes, partner bids 2H, RHO passes.

Your thoughts? Also, are you willing to go to the 5 level in search of the slam?
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Posted 2003-October-31, 09:48

5C Exclusion Blackwood (RKC without CA in my case)...
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Posted 2003-October-31, 17:14

As pd needs 1 H honor, the A of S and some Ds for me to make 6, any slam move from me is precipitious After all pd has only raised 1 to 2. I bid 4H.
What are the odds of pd having the right cards?
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Posted 2003-November-01, 04:09

Interesting hand! Nobody bids the spades? Who has it? Most probably partner (some 5314 shape or so), but you never know. Better to be fast...

I need too much for slam and there are some hands with which I may go down in 5H.

Give partner some [HHxxx xxx x HHxx] hand and a slam-try would became a very bad idea.

I would bid a quickly 4H and hope the best....

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Posted 2003-November-01, 07:10

the way i play, 3C here shows shortness (kokish).. i'd bid that... if partner says 3H, i bid 4D.. i'm looking, i think.. so if forced, i'll bid rkc over his 4H... i hate not to look with a 3 loser hand
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Posted 2003-November-08, 00:17

5c exclusive blackwood
That's all.
Risk is: playing at 5H-1 , but that chance is much smaller than to find a small or grand slam. It worths to take the risk.
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Posted 2003-November-08, 16:27

I cant see any risk... Simple splinter 4CL, and if P bid 4HE -pass, else 5CL ERKCB.
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Posted 2003-November-08, 16:32

For a grand to be a good proposition, pd needs to have the AK of H and the A of S. My pds raise to more than 2H with those cards.
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Posted 2003-November-08, 16:46

Hi Ron!
Who mention about grand? Not sure KC are enough for slam, so asking with 5!c can help... What your partner raise with: Axx,Kxx,xxxx,xxx?
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Posted 2003-November-08, 17:31

Hi Misho,
Bhugi wrote:

Risk is: playing at 5H-1 , but that chance is much smaller than to find a small or grand slam. It worths to take the risk.

I don't disagree with making an autosplinter here in an attempt to look for 6. But 6 will still require perfect cards from pd. Mind you, it depends who is at the other table as well. If I am playing against you, to look for 6 is automatic, cause I know you will try to bid it and I want to flatten the board. lol.
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Posted 2003-November-09, 11:20

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Hi Misho,
Bhugi wrote:

Risk is: playing at 5H-1 , but that chance is much smaller than to find a small or grand slam. It worths to take the risk.

I don't disagree with making an autosplinter here in an attempt to look for 6. But 6 will still require perfect cards from pd. Mind you, it depends who is at the other table as well. If I am playing against you, to look for 6 is automatic, cause I know you will try to bid it and I want to flatten the board. lol.




hehehe, I jus say "Or". Of course I don't think Grand is very possible.
(opp. can't be silence if partner void in spade)

I trust my partner will know with 11 hcp he cannot respond with 2H,
but there is always possible that "a cow fly through ~" or mismouse or just take out the wrong card from the bidding box.

No loss to bid exclusive RKCB and when partner respond 3 keycard it may save a board. lol
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Posted 2003-November-10, 10:19

Not that it matters. but partner's hand was

S- AT96
H- 985
D- 97
C- K432
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Posted 2003-November-10, 12:22

Put CK with your hearts and it's 6H. The chance of having at least HA, HK or SA is big enough imo to try for small slam. Here you get only 1 keycard, so you'll play 5H=.
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Posted 2003-November-10, 16:00

Here you get only 1 keycard, so you'll play 5H=.

Which goes 1 off on a s/t D lead, pd wins the A of H and a D ruff, lol
Is it really worth the risk in trying to find perfect cards in pd's hand? My pds neve have them.

Pd's hand is about what could be expected.
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Posted 2003-November-12, 09:26

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Here you get only 1 keycard, so you'll play 5H=.

Which goes 1 off on a s/t D lead, pd wins the A of H and a D ruff, lol
Is it really worth the risk in trying to find perfect cards in pd's hand? My pds neve have them.

Pd's hand is about what could be expected.


I agree totally: Barry Crane always advised his partner's

"Don't play me for the perfect hand, because I won't hold it"

Also:
"Don't play me for the worst hand, because I won't hold that one either"
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Posted 2003-November-12, 18:47

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Not that it matters. but partner's hand was

S- AT96
H- 985
D- 97
C- K432


in that case, pard would bid 3H over my Kokish 3C.. i'd then bid 3S and since that shows slam interest he'd probably cooperate with a 4C bid.. over 4D though he'd bid 4H.. even with the void in clubs, i'd probably bid rkc now... i'd be happy if 5H makes (it might not, ops might get a D ruff... then i'd feel real bad with pard's TWO attempted signoffs)
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