[mr1303]

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I play "system on" with Mark, but that's partly because we play Keri which has fewer redundant sequences than Stayman does in this situation.

No we don't. You just think we do when you forget the system. What we actually play is that a 1NT overcall is raptor, showing 5m4M. This isn't even a recent change, we adopted it over a year ago.

[pclayton]

I strongly believe that transfers should not be played over a natural 1N overcall.

This being said, a lot of sensible players still play them because of simplicity. It's not worth it to give up a board due to a misunderstanding, when you only gain a marginal amount by putting the weaker hand on lead.

[mike777]

Does anyone play some version of Capp over the OPP natural 1nt overcalls?
1x=(1nt)=?

[joshs]

I started my bridge life playing systems OFF over the 1N overcall, and soon switched to ON but not for technical reasons, but because playing the exact same thing in as many similar situations as possible prevents accidents.

From a theorectical point of view, the gains from system on (x-fer then 2N or 3m) is outweighed by the gains you get putting opener on lead (especially when the opening bid was a major), and being able to get out in 2m. I actually don't think its that close, since you rarely bid slam after an opponent opens, and much prefer 3N to 5m, so the x-fer then 3m sequences are not as important as usual. But avoiding accidents by not having a huge number of exceptions in your system is more important...

Actually in 1 partnership, when they opened 1M we played the x-fer to their suit as stayman and 2C as a x-fer to diamonds

[joshs]

mike777, on May 25 2006, 12:27 PM, said:

Does anyone play some version of Capp over the OPP natural 1nt overcalls?
1x=(1nt)=?

Yes. I usually play Capp or Landy in that situation. In my precision partnerships I usually play multi-landy there since I rarely want to raise 1D to 2D....

[whereagles]

mike777, on May 25 2006, 05:27 PM, said:

Does anyone play some version of Capp over the OPP natural 1nt overcalls?
1x=(1nt)=?

The C-word is forbidden in this forum. It is evil and should be destroyed.

[foo]

Harsh thing to say when talking about players of the caliber of the Cappelletti's...

I happen to agree that Multi-Landy is considerably better than Capp when used vs a enemy 1N opening.

OTOH, Capp or something like it when used vs a enemy T/O X or 1N overcall makes a lot more sense:
1= It maximizes the chance that Overcaller will be on Opening lead.
2= It maximizes the chance that Opener will Declare.
3= It gives Us more sequences in the case of an Opp T/O X and helps Us recover some space in the case of an Opp 1N overcall.
4= It allows Us to describe some hands much faster (or in some cases at all) than if the auction had gone 1foo-pa-??

OTOH, pclayton is quite right when he says that one "oops I forgot" will cost more than many successful uses of such a gadget.

I play stuff like this only in partnerships where I am highly confident there won't be an "oops..."

[whereagles]

foo, on May 25 2006, 06:16 PM, said:

Harsh thing to say when talking about players of the caliber of the Cappelletti's...

It referrs to the convention, not the players, of course.

[Gerben42]

I like to play:

* System on if they bid a minor
* System off if they bid a major

(Usually only a balancing NT is natural anyway, but whenever it applies really)

So, got that out of my system

[Fluffy]

I've always played everything natural after sing off. 3 level bids are forcing, cue is stayman and when you wanna invite with a 5 card suit you use stayman then bid your suit. Reason is quite simple: You want opener on lead.