[sceptic]

Scoring: IMP

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West North East South

 Pass  Pass  Pass  1♦
 1♥    1♠    Pass  2♥
 Pass  2♠    Pass  3♦
 Pass  3♠    Pass  Pass
 Pass  



I would like to point out I have a lovely pard and she does not mind me posting these hands

1/. what do you take 2 hearts as? (I assumed 3 card support for my spades)

2/. what about my 3 spade bid should I have bid 4 Spades as a weaker bid than 3 spades

[badderzboy]

1.Showing values and asking u to describe hand further.


2. No pass 3♦ respect partners decisions u told your hand with 2♠

Steve

[pbleighton]

This was just a partnership misunderstanding.

The normal meaning of 2H is a limit plus raise in spades. Your partner obviously didn't play it that way , but you did.

Agree what 2H means in the future, and move on.

Peter

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

2H is a generic force, asking for
further description, e.g. stopper
in hearts ...
Obviously your partner intended
2H as stopper showing, which is
also a possible treament, altough
not a standard treatment.

The best bid is probably a jump to
3D, showing the values and the 6th
diamond.
It is certainly not an option to pass 3D,
with respect to the 2H bid,
but so is repeating the spade suit a 3rd
time
with respect to the 2H bid, so 4D seems
best.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[P_Marlowe]

sceptic, on May 14 2006, 11:58 AM, said:

so you think 2!H after opps bid them , does or does not deny or guarentee spade support were playing 2/1 ?

It certainly denies primary support, ... partner
can bid 2S, 3S, 4S.
A jump cant be preemptive, afterall he opened.
Only in fairly rare cases, i.e. in cases he has
slam, is a 2H bid with a spade fit an option, and you
should double check, if there is no other option.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[EricK]

Are you playing that your 1♠ bid shows 5♠?

If so, then partner's 2♥ bid is just a general force, probably denying ♠ support, and you should now show your ♦ support.

If you only promise 4♠ for your bid, then 2♥ will often include hands with 3 card support.

Whatever your bid showed, I don't think partner is strong enough to bid 2♥. She should have settled for 3♦ which you can happily pass.

One point is that you are unlikely to have great length in ♠ bearing in mind that you passed originally. Perhaps your partner should have figured this out.

[han]

pbleighton, on May 14 2006, 12:43 PM, said:

This was just a partnership misunderstanding.

The normal meaning of 2H is a limit plus raise in spades. Your partner obviously didn't play it that way , but you did.

Agree what 2H means in the future, and move on.

Peter

Peter, this is not the "normal meaning" where you are from. I suspect that you misread the auction.

[luke warm]

i'd assume 2♥ shows stopper(s) for nt purposes, and i'd bid 3♦ since i can't stop clubs

[luis]

2♥ is ambiguous.
2♠ is fine confirming 5+ spades.
Over 3♦ you have to bid 4♦ in my opinion, you already said you have 5 spades, and pd is saying she has a diamond suit so it is time to support with support.



Luis