2D showed both majors, weak. What is your call now. Also, what should 4S and 4NT be in this auction?
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#1
Posted 2006-April-29, 10:20
2D showed both majors, weak. What is your call now. Also, what should 4S and 4NT be in this auction?
- hrothgar
#2 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2006-April-29, 11:55
#3
Posted 2006-April-29, 12:06
4♠ should be a cue, but I'm not cuebidding an exposed king under the bidder. 4N is takeout, but pard shouldn't expect a 4 card differential; I think 3 is more typical.
Might have a perfecto 6 opposite: ???, ♥A, ♦A, ♣KQ.... but its tough to find.
#4
Posted 2006-April-29, 12:16
In reality, I have a sink suspicion that Diamonds is a better strain than clubs, however, I don't see a good way to have an intelligent auction.
#5
Posted 2006-April-29, 12:34
Absent discussion, I would not inflict 4♠ on partner for this reason.
If LHO promised 5-5 or better, then 4♠ as a slammish hand makes sense.
Absent agreement, I make the practical bid of 5♣... even tho ♦ may well be superior, I cannot tell, and ♣ rates to be adequate. Yet another case of the best contract possible rather than the best possible contract.
4N, undiscussed, would not be this hand, altho the treatment Justin proposes has a lot of merit (as is often the case, keycard is not the optimum usage)
#6
Posted 2006-April-29, 12:36
#7
Posted 2006-April-29, 12:40
♠ AQJ10xxx
♥ x
♦ Axx
♣ xx
because I can't bid 4♠ naturally? You have 4NT available to show a two-suiter if you like. Similarly, 2MA in second seat over Ekren should be natural, constructive but non-forcing in my opinion.
Roland
#8
Posted 2006-April-29, 13:17
#10
Posted 2006-April-29, 21:07
I'm pretty sure that Arend would interpret 4NT as a 2-suiter, as usual when it someone's first call in a cramped auction (stole this from mikeh
In fact, I would expect clubs to play better than diamonds with the given hand more often than the other way around, but it is close imo. Still I chose to bid 5D. I think that slam prospects are fair, but not enough to just blast to slam. We also have no way to make a slam try (4NT followed by 5D would rather show the rounded suits than slam interest imo). I think that 5D suggests a better hand then 5C, so I expected that partner would more often raise over 5D when he has serious extras (and somewhat of a diamond fit).
As it was, partner had something like Qx Kxx A KJxxxxx, so 5C is definitely better than 5D, but the cards were friendly and both made. And bo hrothgar, I didn't post the hand because 6NT was the winning call
- hrothgar
#11
Posted 2006-April-29, 21:33
But I am more petrified of a spade lead through my K opposite mundane hands like: xx, x, Axx, KQJxxxx, where 11 tricks become at risk.
#12
Posted 2006-April-30, 10:22
- hrothgar
#13
Posted 2006-April-30, 15:39
My personal approach to these situations is to not try to be brilliant. I am wondering where the spades are, and I suspect that spade king might not be worth very much. To bid 3C, IMO, partner should have a hand that would have a play for 3NT opposite a fitting club honor, a heart stopper, and perhaps a little more outside, or something of that ilk. Does that necessarily mean that we have a slam and that I might be stolen blind by not making a slam try? If there is a way to find out whether or not there are 2 quick losers on this hand, I would very much like to learn it. I am concerned that P would interpret a 4S bid by me as a club slam try showing the ace or a stiff, neither of which I have. Unless previously discussed, I am concerned that P would interpret 4NT as rkc. I'm under pressure, but I don't wish to take a minus score or have some bidding misunderstanding as a result. (Perhaps 4S should be rkc for clubs and 4NT be minor oriented slam try. This is an infrequent situation, IMO resolved only by partnership discussion.) So, I would likely bid an unimaginative 5C and let the experts tell me what I should have done.
DHL
#14
Posted 2006-April-30, 15:56
Peter
#15
Posted 2006-May-01, 00:30
4S=cue agreeing clubs
#16
Posted 2006-May-01, 08:20
On the actual hand I'm bidding 4NT. I don't really know where we want to play, so I'll let partner help decide. Wouldn't really occur to me that 4NT could be keycard on this auction ... we're way too cramped.
Edit: I like Han's suggestion that 5♦ more strongly suggests slam than 4NT does, but can't quite bring myself to bid it.
#17
Posted 2006-May-01, 09:01
#18
Posted 2006-May-01, 09:54
#19
Posted 2006-May-01, 09:58
- hrothgar
#20
Posted 2006-May-01, 13:11
Hannie, on May 1 2006, 07:58 AM, said:
Well, I suppose we can exempt out direct action

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