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#1 User is offline   Walddk 

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Posted 2006-April-24, 14:52

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Matchpoints, both vulnerable. RHO opens 1NT (12-14) and you overcall 2♠ (spades and a minor, longer spades). 2NT* to your left, and pass from partner. Opener rebids 3♣**, you decide to double, and LHO bids 3♥ (5+ hearts, competitive values).

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It goes pass, pass to you. Do you bid more?

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Posted 2006-April-24, 15:02

I regret that I am playing a system in which I can't bid a natural 2S. I would have prefered to show a 1-suiter with this hand. It would have worked especially well here, as I would have been able to double 3C to show "single suiter in spades with clubs on the side", which is far closer to what I have.

Anyway, this is all moot because I am not playing that, and I suspect that this is another appeals case. I would pass now. I have made a reasonable description of my hand, and now it is up to partner.


My guess is that the reason for posting this hand is that partner made a long hesitation before passing 3H. If so then yes, I do think that that suggest bidding, and yes, I do think that pass is a (more than) reasonable alternative.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2006-April-24, 15:04

I'd pass it out.
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Posted 2006-April-24, 15:31

Pass

Pard has passed the shoe twice. They have no guarantee of a fit.

Does this look like a typical 2♠ overcall? I think so - the 6th spade is nice, but I'd bet that a 2♠ call shows about 5.5 spades anyway.

Roland, I'm guessing this is a UI situation and the person that held this hands partner hitched over 3♥..........
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Posted 2006-April-24, 15:47

Was too easy to spot I suppose. You are right, partner was in the tank over 3♥. Needless to say, 3♠ was the contract for NS. I adjusted to 3♥ 10 tricks (worst possible result for NS) and South appealed.

We are nice people in Denmark, so the AC let the offending side keep the deposit. I am not sure this was the right thing to do. The same South will keep bidding and appealing if it's without cost to do so.

Frankly speaking, I think it's a waste of the TD's as well as the AC's time.

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Posted 2006-April-24, 15:50

If partner tanked over 3H i would obviously bid 3S now, it's gotta be percentage :P
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Posted 2006-April-24, 15:51

I agree with all that Roland.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2006-April-24, 16:13

Walddk, on Apr 24 2006, 01:47 PM, said:

Was too easy to spot I suppose. You are right, partner was in the tank over 3♥. Needless to say, 3♠ was the contract for NS. I adjusted to 3♥ 10 tricks (worst possible result for NS) and South appealed.

We are nice people in Denmark, so the AC let the offending side keep the deposit. I am not sure this was the right thing to do. The same South will keep bidding and appealing if it's without cost to do so.

Frankly speaking, I think it's a waste of the TD's as well as the AC's time.

Roland

I'm always curious about what the other hand holds for the hesitation.

My $$'s on a 2=3=5=3 9 count.
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Posted 2006-April-24, 16:17

I agree that the AC should have kept the deposit. I would even think this is clear-cut.

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