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Deep Finesse is always right (Case 154)

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Posted 2006-April-13, 15:23

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We played this one in the stratified yesterday. Pass, Pass, RHO opened 3♣, 3♠ and a dubious 4♠ by pard. -2 with a little help from the opps.

A lot of the 90 minute drive home centered on 3N by North - South. I won't say what DF says about it, but you get to choose to play or defend.
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Posted 2006-April-13, 15:30

I want to defend given that North is declarer. Will wait with the lead till others get the chance. If South declares, however, I want to play the hand.

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Posted 2006-April-13, 15:51

I'll declare from either north or south.

I hope I'm not missing something!
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Posted 2006-April-13, 15:53

jdonn, on Apr 13 2006, 10:51 PM, said:

I hope I'm not missing something!

You are, with North as declarer.

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Posted 2006-April-13, 15:55

accidental post undone

further edit: I did indeed remove the quote below BEFORE it was replied to :D but not quickly enough.
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Posted 2006-April-13, 15:57

jdonn, on Apr 13 2006, 10:55 PM, said:

Walddk, on Apr 13 2006, 04:53 PM, said:

jdonn, on Apr 13 2006, 10:51 PM, said:

I hope I'm not missing something!

You are, with North as declarer.

Roland

I double you

I redouble! Try to make it on a diamond lead. And that is exactly why the contract can't be defeated if South is declarer. West can't attack the suit.

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Posted 2006-April-13, 21:33

I wondered if the contract would always be down on a heart lead ducked ... but no, west is subjected to a (strip) squeeze on the run of the spades ...
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Posted 2006-April-14, 03:35

I want to play, especially when South! If I run my ♠s, LHO can discard 1♦, but he'll need another discard: either ♣ or ♦. If he discards ♣, then you can endplay him in ♥ (or endplay RHO and make a ♣ trick). If he discards ♦ you can cash out. If he discards ♥ then we lose a ♥ less.

If I'm north, a ♦ lead may screw my entry problems, because I need to play ♥ myself... But it might still be possible.
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Posted 2006-April-14, 09:06

Roland rocks!

And I didn't even make a comment about the positional nature of the hand; I was going to leave that for later. ;)

Limey's comment about the low heart lead is right; the West hand gets ground up on the 5th spade.

But its the diamond through the tenace (played by North) thats the killer.
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