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Strong notrump hand

Poll: Pick your poison at MP (22 member(s) have cast votes)

Pick your poison at MP

  1. Pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Double (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 1D (1 votes [4.55%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.55%

  4. 1NT (21 votes [95.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 95.45%

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#1 User is offline   Gerben42 

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Posted 2006-April-11, 02:33

Scoring: MP


Edit: RHO opens 1♣

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Posted 2006-April-11, 02:41

This can't be an opening bid problem (else why is double an option?)

I don't see that it can be a problem over RHO's opening of 1C (bid 1NT).

I don't see that it can be a problem after partner opens 1C and the next hand doubles (else redouble would be an option).

So what's left? The auction must be 1C P P ?
Got it! That's actually a problem hand, as well.

I would double, planning to rebid 1NT.
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Posted 2006-April-11, 02:56

There was a very similar problem in MSC, except that the shape was 4144 and both vul. The majority chose pass.

Here, it's not really a problem. Some think it's not too strong for 1NT but with an unknown p I must double.
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Posted 2006-April-11, 06:45

Depending on exactly what range you have agreed, a 'standard' 1NT overcall of 1C shows 15-17, 15-18, 16-18, 14-17 HCP with a club stop, and usually not with clubs as your shortest suit. This seems to be a textbook example.

Clearly 1NT didn't work, otherwise you wouldn't have presented this as a problem.
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Posted 2006-April-11, 06:48

1NT

Whats the problem?
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Posted 2006-April-11, 06:49

Since I (as usual) did not have a natural 1NT available I overcalled 1♦, which worked much better than the field decision to bid 1NT. So I was wondering if anyone might overcall if they HAD a natural 1NT available with a major wide open (which was the reason why 1NT didn't work - opps have 5 cashing ♥.
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Posted 2006-April-11, 06:59

If you play strong NT, would you open this hand 1D?
Or, if you play weak NT, would you open the same hand without the DK 1D?

After all, the heart suit is wide open, and clearly a 1D opening could work better.
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Posted 2006-April-11, 07:00

Gerben42, on Apr 11 2006, 02:49 PM, said:

Since I (as usual) did not have a natural 1NT available I overcalled 1♦, which worked much better than the field decision to bid 1NT. So I was wondering if anyone might overcall if they HAD a natural 1NT available with a major wide open (which was the reason why 1NT didn't work - opps have 5 cashing ♥.

That is what partners are for. If you had majors you'd have dbled. So if he doesn't have majors, he should bid something else ....
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Posted 2006-April-11, 07:28

Sorry the question is do I (i) make a 4 card overcall or ( ii) make the system bid that describes my hand?

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