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Small or grand? Partner has a good hand

#1 User is offline   MickyB 

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Posted 2006-April-04, 06:06

Scoring: IMP

(1)-2NT-(3)-4
(4)-6-(P)

World class opposition.
2NT showed both reds (weak or strong)
3 was a strong 3 bid.
What might partner have?
What's your call?

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Posted 2006-April-04, 06:14

This seams to be one of these 50+ HCP boards. And it smells like 2NT is both minors and not both red suits.
Someone is bidding much stronger than he actually is. The only one who's bid may have been weak is partner, so i bid 6 now. Since i have allready shown the preference.
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Posted 2006-April-04, 06:28

Sorry, I should have said that this is not a pick-up partnership and partner is decent. He *will* have the red suits.
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Posted 2006-April-04, 06:34

I expect partner to have a club void, and his most likely spade holding is a small singleton. In which case, partner is hoping for no losers in the red suits, but that doesn't mean his suits have to be solid - his diamond holding might be AKTxxx or AQJTxx for example, and we don't really want to be in grand opposite that. So I'll settle for 6. If I'm wrong about partner having a singleton spade (would he bid thirteen red cards this way?) then it's even more clear we don't want to be in grand - partner must be missing a vital red honour.

This post has been edited by david_c: 2006-April-04, 06:58

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Posted 2006-April-04, 07:10

Ok so he has the red suits. But how strong can he be?
I still bid 6 to show that my are longer than my . Partner can correct to 6 if he wants to.
What would 5 have shown?
I think partner is preempting opps slam, but since you hold AK they don't have one.
So I get out of this as low as possible.

He could hold anything between:
xx
AKxxx
AKQxxx
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and
x
JTxxx
Txxxxx
x
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Posted 2006-April-04, 07:18

Hi,

6H.

Partner is looking for 7, I have
nothing helpful, ... except the Ace
of spade, so 6H.

6C could have been for the lead,
but against 6S partner is on lead,
so thats out.

With kind regards
Marlowe
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Posted 2006-April-04, 07:22

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He could hold anything between:
xx
AKxxx
AKQxxx
-

and
x
JTxxx
Txxxxx
x




At adverse vulnerability partner has a 5-6 1 count and bids 6 supposedly inviting a grand?

I don't like the three low diamonds partner might be semi gambling the suit runs after a ruff or two with something like AK(J)xx.

If partner was fishing for for just the spade ace, he might have bid 5 and then 6 over 5 red suit from us. I would settle for 6
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Posted 2006-April-04, 07:26

6 for me as well. 7 might be on if pard is bidding sensibly.. but it is my experience that if someone is overbidding here, that someone is PARD.
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Posted 2006-April-04, 09:47

7 is completely clear if you trust partner to have his bid. But I have found in practice people rarely have their bid when they do something huge like this, they are taking a chance on some card. I will bid 7 anyway, if he was stretching it's his problem.
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Posted 2006-April-04, 10:08

I agree with bidding 7.

Partner should be void in and was trying for grand. You hold great cards: I'd expect something like x AKJxxx AKQxxx void.

His will be very good but not necessarily solid: you showed length. On a really bad day, he is missing the K but then you are on a hook through the opening bidder. However, I don't expect to need it.

He should not need a cover in , since he is already asking you for a cover in : I don't think that a good partner would be making the try with 2 holes.

Besides, if you bid 6 and 7 was cold, how could you look partner in the eye?

When good partners make good bids, you have to live up to partner's expectations.

As for 6, that is the type of bid that makes no sense. What are you showing? Why are you showing it? You know that hand plays in , why 'cue' xxx???

And if it is not a cue, what is it? A suggestion to play? I hope not B)
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Posted 2006-April-06, 06:30

The hand was taken from the Spring Fours last year, the opponents were Robson-Bakhshi.

The person who held this hand said he "bottled it" when he only bid 6 - Partner's hand was x AKQxx AKxxxxx void. I felt that his partner should have started with 5 trying to elicit a spade cue, as that is all he needs for the grand, and that 6 should be looking for something else from partner other than the spade ace. How would partner bid with, for example, x AKQxxx AKxxxx? Having said that, maybe a 40% grand wouldn't have been a bad idea as the underdogs!
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Posted 2006-April-06, 11:55

7hearts seems to be cold here. Partner's concern here is in spades.He is prepared to play 6H with a spade hole so it is almost certain he has a single spade as with 2 he cant guarantee 6H.He has club control, so the only risk to 7hearts is a diamond ruff at trick 1
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