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#1 User is offline   annebabe 

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  Posted 2006-March-23, 17:02

New partner, team game. Nobody Vul

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1 ♥ 4 ♥ p you hold: x xxx AQxxx xxxx

What do you bid?
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Posted 2006-March-23, 17:40

4S. I have seen this played as a really good 4S bid, so I'll hope from my hand thats how CHO means it.
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Posted 2006-March-23, 19:11

Without any agreement? In a new partnership?
I'd bid 4N (for the minors) and start thinking who might be a better partner B)
There should be plenty to choose from
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Posted 2006-March-24, 03:39

Is there any chance it might be natural? I might be tempted to pass.
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Posted 2006-March-24, 03:51

4NT for the minors. If my new pard is brave enough to try for an undiscussed bid, he'll probably have more than 1 suit.

Makes sense, no? At least I think so B)
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Posted 2006-March-24, 04:02

mr1303, on Mar 24 2006, 10:39 AM, said:

Is there any chance it might be natural? I might be tempted to pass.

I don't think it can be natural when you have 3♥ and opener has 5♥.

So, a very good 4♠ bid, a giant 3-suiter ... ?

Making undiscussed bids like this can't be productive. One thing is sure, if I collect a zero, that won't be my fault !

Let's go with 4NT to continue in the same vein LOL

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Posted 2006-March-24, 05:05

Well, that's assuming that North hasn't psyched his 1H opening.

Also possible is that North/South play 4 card majors, in which case partner has something like AKJxxx and a good hand?
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Posted 2006-March-24, 07:31

My guess looking at my hand is that partner has a good 4S overcall.
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Posted 2006-March-24, 07:39

4♠. Partner might have a Namyatsy hand in ♠. Ask Zia what he thinks?
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Posted 2006-March-24, 08:23

4NT.

Partner has a very distributional (but not strong) hand with spades and a minor and is willing to preempt them to 4♠ or 5m immediately.

Same as immediate 1M - 4NT - Unusual NT, preempt to 5 level.
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Posted 2006-March-24, 10:06

I don`t belive in ral hearts and a psych from north. In that case, pd should wait and bid later.
I don`t believe in a giant one-suiter,in that case he could have bid slowly.

I do belive in a strong two-suiter with spades. Seems easy. So 4 NT is my bid too.
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Posted 2006-March-24, 13:39

I'm with the 4N bidders. The question becomes what to do over 5C/5D by pard.

I also think this should be a strong(ish) two-suiter (or really freakish distributional 7-0-5-1, 7-6, 661, etc). Weaker, less distributional hands, could have simply michaeled.

My inclination would be to pass 5C and raise 5D to 6. However, it also depends on who my partner is. :D
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