[sceptic]

Scoring: IMP

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West North East South

 -     -     Pass  1♥
 Pass  1♠    Pass  2♦
 Pass  2♥    Pass  3♦
 Pass  3♥    Pass  Pass
 Pass  


we were playing 2/1 no agreement on short or long suit game tries

questions

1/. what do you think of the 1 spade bid?

2/. I bid 3diamonds as a game try (after a weak response from p, I was still not willing to give up yet)

3/. would 2 spades have been a better bid or pass, instead of 3 diamonds

any other comments appreciated thx

[pbleighton]

1S is a mistake - 2H is the bid.

I would pass 2H. Yes, your hand is very nice, but pd's bid showed only 2 hearts, and you are short in his suit. It is close, though, and I don't think 3D is a bad bid.

Peter

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

1S is ok, especially if you raise regular with 3
card support .
3D is aggressive in with the spade single and
with this trump suit, you really dont want to play
3H on the 3 level opposite xx.

I do not completely understand your 3rd
question, certainly 2S by opener is not an
option, the same holds for responder
2S instead of 2H is also not an option.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[badderzboy]

Hi Wayne

1♥-2♥-4♥ was the simple auction - ironically you play 5 card majors so partner can support with 3 here with a singleton ♦ you look to have ruffing power!

1/. what do you think of the 1 spade bid?

An attempt to steal the contract and play it otherwise a poor bid

2/. I bid 3diamonds as a game try (after a weak response from p, I was still not willing to give up yet)

I would have bid 3♦ over 1♠ although the poor clubs and stiff in ♠s are not positives my hand is still worth over 15/16 points. I would like to bid 2 and a half someting!

3/. would 2 spades have been a better bid or pass, instead of 3 diamonds
You made a valiant last attempt ptr wasn't listening!

Steve

[cherdano]

After 1S, I think the auction is fine, but I also think a direct 2H is better.

[paulg]

Wayne,

I can imagine having the same auction.

Paul

[helene_t]

The auction is OK. Playing 2/1, you can't raise hearts directly since that would show a stronger hand.

Maybe you should have passed 2♥ but 3♦ is not crazy.

[mikeh]

I strongly disagree with 1♠. With weak hands, raise immediately.

The auction 1♥ 1♠ 1N 2♥ is forward going (not forcing) precisely because of the two step approach to showing the raise.

If your hand is worth only one bid, and you have support, show the support. Partners always seem to appreciate it

And it simplifies things enormously: look at this hand as an example.

North is worth only one bid, so he rejects the game try, afraid that he has already bid too much. But S has a game bid, not a game try, provided that S knows that north has a real raise, not a mere preference.

The auction, with most expert pairs, would be 1♥ 2♥ 4♥ (most experts eschew game tries on this kind of opening hand because showing the ♦ suit gives away far too much information, and game rates to have a play opposite many relatively indifferent holdings).

[Limey_p]

I like the auction. Don't change a thing!

[jdeegan]

The rule is simple. If you have a hand that readily qualifies for a 2♥ bid, ignore the spades, and bid 2♥. You have found an 8+ card major suit fit so:
1) tell partner, and
2) limit your hand