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#1 User is offline   whereagles 

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Posted 2006-March-10, 05:03

Matchpoints, intermediate field, system: 2/1, you hold:

♠ 876532
♥ T
♦ KT84
♣ J9

RHO LHO
1♥ 2♣
2♥ 4♥
4♠ 5♣
6♥

2♣ was game forcing, 2♥ shows 6 hearts, 4♥ is fast arrival.

Your lead?
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Posted 2006-March-10, 05:34

If it's LHO who plays it is not my lead ! :lol:

I think I have to be aggressive here so small ♦

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Posted 2006-March-10, 05:42

♦8
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Posted 2006-March-10, 07:08

♣J
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  Posted 2006-March-10, 07:27

♣J.

Assuming that your labels of LHO and RHO are confused. They may have an unprotected club control here.
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Posted 2006-March-10, 07:37

Declarer (I'll assume thats really RHO) may have both aces, and even a tenace.
Don't lead a trump as it may cost if pard has Qxx, dumy, xxx, and declarer AKJxxx, because the percentatge play is for the drop.

Lead a club. Clubs may not break well for dummy. Dummy may only have 4

Also, since when does 2♥ show 6 trumps in 2/1? Then how do you bid with just 5 trumps? Bid a 2 card diamond suit? Or a 3 card Spade suit showing a Reverse? Or raise Clubs with 3?

I think this contract can be defeated.
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Posted 2006-March-10, 07:54

ArcLight, on Mar 10 2006, 02:37 PM, said:

Also, since when does 2♥ show 6 trumps in 2/1? Then how do you bid with just 5 trumps? Bid a 2 card diamond suit? Or a 3 card Spade suit showing a Reverse? Or raise Clubs with 3?

Since the opponents on this board chose to play a method where a 2H rebid shows 6 hearts. Opponents aren't forced to play 2/1 the way you do.

(I play 1H-2C-2D as an artificial relay and 2H promising 6, for example)
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Posted 2006-March-10, 08:39

Any card face down on the table
Because it's not my lead.
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Posted 2006-March-10, 09:12

Diamond. I want to set up a diamond trick and play partner for a heart or club card. If I don't, I'm worried they will take many club/heart/spade tricks.
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Posted 2006-March-10, 10:28

♦

The same card that I would lead at imps. An auction lke this, where opener has essentially driven to slam, is probably not going to be the field auction, and so the slam may be missed at many tables. This means that guarding against overtricks is largely irrelevant: our goal is to beat the contract, hence the need for the aggressive, out of turn lead. :)
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Posted 2006-March-10, 12:05

Fixed LHO/RHO labels, thx.
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Posted 2006-March-10, 12:22

I think a diamond is the only option here.

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Posted 2006-March-12, 04:02

Allright, second part of the problem <_< What would you lead if pard doubled 6♥?
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Posted 2006-March-12, 11:22

A spade. Presumably he'll ruff.
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Posted 2006-March-12, 12:23

♣J, tho justin is probably right.. hard to imagine pard will ruff a spade when the suit wasn't even mentioned (except in passing).. seems more likely pard wants a club led through
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Posted 2006-March-12, 12:47

luke warm, on Mar 12 2006, 01:23 PM, said:

♣J, tho justin is probably right.. hard to imagine pard will ruff a spade when the suit wasn't even mentioned (except in passing).. seems more likely pard wants a club led through

Then he should have Xed 5C.
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Posted 2006-March-12, 13:04

good pernt
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Posted 2006-March-13, 03:08

whereagles, on Mar 12 2006, 11:02 AM, said:

Allright, second part of the problem :D What would you lead if pard doubled 6♥?

A spade in his void then...

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Posted 2006-March-13, 04:55

Thx all, hands were

Scoring: MP

West East
1♥ 2♣
2♥ 4♥
4♠ 5♣
6♥ pass


There wasn't any spade ruff coming, but spade was the good lead.

I was South. At table I had the feeling pard was going to make a natural, but disastrous, lead from Qxx or Kxx of diamonds, and therefore I should double. If anything it would cast doubt upon him.

I ended up not doubling because if things worked out wrong, pard would be upset. Obviously, pard duly lead... a diamond :lol:
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