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Jlall, on Mar 7 2006, 12:08 PM, said:
Doesn't anyone ever bid 1N with 11? Hearts are usually poorly placed and partner with shortness will bid pretty agressively. If there's no source of tricks I will routinely bid 1N with 11. I expect partner to raise with 15, and accept missing game opposite 14 (which doesn't always produce game). I don't see why partner would have raised 2N with his actual 8 count including a couple of queens.
I am one of those who will bid 1N with a poor 11, but I have long thought that I was in the minority. When I once voted that way in a It's Your Bid panel of experts and near experts, I was the lone 1N bidder
Your comment about partner bidding aggressively with ♥ shortness is well-taken, and raised another issue, that perhaps should be in a new thread, but...
After
(1♥) x (P) 1N
(P) ?
What meaning do we give to 2♣ or 2♦?
Certainly 2♠ would be big (for me the type of hand that would open 1♠ and have a full-value jump rebid of 3♠ over a 1N response), but what about 2 minor?
For me these are runouts from 1N: 1♣ typically 4=1=4=4 11-12 count, 2♦ same range but usually 4=1=5=3.