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#1 User is offline   AceOfHeart 

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Posted 2006-February-23, 06:42

occured during a team match.

psyche vs psyche ;)

Scoring: IMP



WEST ---------NORTH-------EAST------- SOUTH
P--------------- P ------------1H(1)----------X
1S(2)----------2C --------------P-----------2NT
P ----------- 4H(3) ------------ P------------4S
ALL Pass

(1) psyche
(2) psyche
(3) texas

What do you think of the texas by north hand? Do you think south should explore further?
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Posted 2006-February-23, 10:26

I assume that this post is a joke, as is the question about 'texas' by north.

North is transferring into a 2 card suit when all S has done is to show a balanced hand too big for a 1N overcall: say a 3=3=4=3 20 count, as an example.
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Posted 2006-February-23, 11:29

It is a true hand played. God knows why the opps transfered to spades. when asked he said he thinks west is psyching so he transfered to spades. Which i hold my opinion on that about their partnership ethics :rolleyes: anyway what should north bid to expose the psyche by west?
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Posted 2006-February-23, 12:01

How does north know west is psyching? Certainly there are some missing values here, but couldn't west have bid 1♠ on a five-carder in a weak hand?

It's south who needs to expose the psych. Perhaps a 3♠ call at second turn?
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Posted 2006-February-23, 12:37

AceOfHeart, on Feb 23 2006, 12:29 PM, said:

It is a true hand played. God knows why the opps transfered to spades. when asked he said he thinks west is psyching so he transfered to spades. Which i hold my opinion on that about their partnership ethics :rolleyes: anyway what should north bid to expose the psyche by west?

North has no idea west psyched, and there is nothing he can do about that. South made a strange bid at his second turn. After making a takeout x, if you next bid one of the other 3 suits, its natural and strong, even if by chance your LHO bid it before you did.

The Auction Should go:
1H-x-1S-1N(This hand is too good for a 2C bid, so the choice is 1N or 3C)
P-2S-P-3C
P-?
Now the choices are:
3S, 3N, 4S
I don't really like 3S, although I do think its forcing (since the player xed when he could have overcalled spades, and obviously has 6+S, so not a 5044 hand, he must have a hand to good for a 1S overcall. This plus the 8-10ish promised by the 1N bid is clearly enough for game.

The reason I don't like 3S, is that it doesn't really express the strength of the suit. 4S is a better description of the power of the hand/suit. Getting to the spade slam is still tricky. The only way I can see getting to the spade slam is:

1H-x-1S-3C
P-4S(3S would have been forcing)-P-5S
P-6S-All Pass

This is assuming that 4S is natural and a strong suit and not a splinter for clubs...I think it should be natural and a very strong suit, but thats partially since you need an absolute moose to x 1H for takeout holding a singleton spade, so the splinter hand is even rarer than the actual hand. But I would not try this bid undiscussed....

If instead it goes:
1H-x-1S-3C
P-3S-P-3N
P-4S-P-?
North will have no idea that south's suit is solid, so its hard to make another bid here.
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Posted 2006-February-23, 12:40

joshs, on Feb 23 2006, 01:37 PM, said:

AceOfHeart, on Feb 23 2006, 12:29 PM, said:

It is a true hand played. God knows why the opps transfered to spades. when asked he said he thinks west is psyching so he transfered to spades. Which i hold my opinion on that about their partnership ethics :rolleyes: anyway what should north bid to expose the psyche by west?

North has no idea west psyched, and there is nothing he can do about that. South made a strange bid at his second turn. After making a takeout x, if you next bid one of the other 3 suits, its natural and strong, even if by chance your LHO bid it before you did.

The Auction Should go:
1H-x-1S-1N(This hand is too good for a 2C bid, so the choice is 1N or 3C)
P-2S-P-3C
P-?
Now the choices are:
3S, 3N, 4S
I don't really like 3S, although I do think its forcing (since the player xed when he could have overcalled spades, and obviously has 6+S, so not a 5044 hand, he must have a hand to good for a 1S overcall. This plus the 8-10ish promised by the 1N bid is clearly enough for game.

The reason I don't like 3S, is that it doesn't really express the strength of the suit. 4S is a better description of the power of the hand/suit. Getting to the spade slam is still tricky. The only way I can see getting to the spade slam is:

1H-x-1S-3C
P-4S(3S would have been forcing)-P-5S
P-6S-All Pass

This is assuming that 4S is natural and a strong suit and not a splinter for clubs...I think it should be natural and a very strong suit, but thats partially since you need an absolute moose to x 1H for takeout holding a singleton spade, so the splinter hand is even rarer than the actual hand. But I would not try this bid undiscussed....

If instead it goes:
1H-x-1S-3C
P-3S-P-3N
P-4S-P-?
North will have no idea that south's suit is solid, so its hard to make another bid here.

Actually, After 1H-x-1S-1N-P I think south should bid 3S, showing the strong suit and the great hand immediately (2S would have been forcing, so 3S shows a powerful suit)
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